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Project Starline: Feel like you're there, together

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Re: Project Starline: Feel like you're there, together

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Post by everyone »

dash2 wrote: post #412
akie wrote: post #394

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Depends on how much bandwidth it needs. I've been video conferencing a lot (who didn't, this past year) and even with people on the other side of the globe I don't recall latency ever being a problem.

Also depends what you're doing. Singing together is impossible over standard video conferencing, for example.

yeah, like if your playing keys live for example, you want your audio interface to have around 6ms latency max (the delay time between your finger pressing a key and you hearing the sound from pressing that key) above that and it starts to become detrimental to your playing. above 10 and you can barely play.

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Post by evrenesat »

ByteWelder wrote: post #452
spurgu wrote: post #124

Thought: This could bring back phone booths. If this tech turns out to be too expensive (for normal people) we could still use it on a pay-per-use basis, like with a "video conferencing booth". You'd schedule your call and reserve a local booth for both participants through an app. And most companies should be able to afford having one of these in the office.

I doubt that very much. Consider these scenarios: 1. Call for free from home/couch with a regular camera in the privacy of my home. 2. Go to some location and pay a third party to do a less private call, and have a better visual experience. The most obvious choice would be number 1 in 99.9% of all cases. In theory, privacy can be increased by creating a sound-proofed environment for your call, but in practice, that w…

I would like to see this as a franchised service for cafes and bars. It would be nice to be able to treat drinks and the 3d chat experience to a friend who lives in another country. And you know, some conversations are done better at a place other than family home.

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Post by asenna »

fataliss wrote: post #321
pinko wrote: post #190

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I can echo (no pun intended) this experience with the Echo Show, but I would love something much bigger and higher-def. My family is separated long-distance, and I would pay big money for a higher-def "window to another home" product.

Can't one facetime on an appleTV/macMini with a webcam? Or use an ipad Pro?

"Alexa, drop-in to Kenya" works amazingly well.

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Post by asenna »

faitswulff wrote: post #280
asenna wrote: post #159

On a related note, I wanted to share my amazing experience with a similar but lo-fi tech. My mom and dad for the past 2-3 years have mostly lived in two separate countries (due to work reasons) and I could tell they miss each other quite a bit. I got both of them an Echo Show 10" device each and set it up for them. I don't think I can explain how our lives have changed for the better, just based on this simple piece…

Did you consider Google Nest Hub for this use case? I’ve been thinking of doing the same thing but I’m not sure which to get.

Last I checked, Google Nest did not have a "Drop-in" feature like Echo where my parents can just drop-into the living room of the other house (no calling or ringing).

The Echo device just makes a sound that someone is dropping-in and gives a 10 seconds heads-up (of course this only works if you enable the permission for family members. Else it's turned off by default).

Re: Project Starline: Feel like you're there, together

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Post by gehsty »

Super cool technology. It will be interesting to see how this develops, for me google seem to struggle with hardware products, even more with consumer hardware products. I can't see where it fits in to the google ecosystem and how people will access it.

I could imagine Apple selling this in a re-imagined Apple TV with an Apple TV Facetime App. They could probably build something now with the FaceID sensor array / iPhone Camera system / M1 chip plugged into a 4k TV.

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Post by Bognar »

alwayshumans wrote: post #139
airstrike wrote: post #108

This , my friends, is how business travel becomes nearly irrelevant. This is a beautifully executed idea and if the demos live up to expectation the hype may even be warranted. But on a much more fundamental level (i.e. fancy 3D imaging and spatial audio aside), this also possibly suggests people would benefit from dedicated videoconferencing hardware. TVs and telephones do one thing really well (or at least historic…

From my experience business travel is as much about sharing an experience as it is the discussion or dissemination of information. That's a hard thing to replicate

The real value of business travel is what you do with people outside of work hours.

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Post by bellyfullofbac »

thepasswordis wrote: post #256
bellyfullofbac wrote: post #178

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On the topic of buxom women, my first thought about this tech was, it'll be the next frontier for OnlyFans/porn accounts on Snapchat. Before you laugh or be prude, porn content was what made VHS and BluRay succeed (or are these urban legends?) and they were pioneers in stuff like online video streaming.

Ah yes, the people whose first thought is not how they can use this to commodify women’s bodies are “prudes”. Yes of course. Women: become literal prostitutes for the only fans corporation. You could be RICH! It’s so fun! They have t-shirts! Remember how I said you could be RICH?!

Not sure my comment will bring anything to change your opinion, you seem to be already a hardcore antiporn person, and I can't defend sex work either because yeah I know it's got a lot of seedy aspects to it; but no, they're not literal prostitutes, cam girls and OnlyFans models have the advantage that they can earn money without having to be in contact with other bodies and potential diseases they bring.

I know some girls who are prostitutes. They seem normal enough. Maybe they're wearing a facade and have hidden PTSDs, I don't know, but if that's the case, I think you might want to extend your crusade against the military.

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Post by Mikho »

Looks like another Magic Leap but in TV formfactor—technology great in concept, and even MVP but completely unrealistic in terms of consumer grade HW as to affordability and accessibility. It will be another tombstone on a huge grave of Google products. Just like Google Glass and many other. It's too hard to trust Google these days and its initiatives.
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