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Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio

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Re: Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio

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For me it is Spotify Connect, and I still can’t believe no one has copied. I’m in the process of getting my speakers set up with airplay, which might be my one way out. It still won’t be as good as Spotify Connect. I just hate that Spotify is deliberately trying to make my Mac and iPhone worse (e.g. Spotify is the only reason Rosetta is running on my M1 Mac) as part of their little war with Apple.

Agree, it's really nice to start streaming from my computer to my Sonos speakers and know that I can close out the app and it will keep playing. And if I need to change it from across the room, I can just pick up my phone.

If you have Sonos speakers you can do all of that for any music streaming service that they support

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This is true, most of 320kbps is indistinguishable, but high hats are often subject to artifacts, including pre-noise that occurs before the sound is supposed to begin. To some it might sound intentional, like a very subtle reverse high hat or other room effect.

This and also transients - they sound in a specific way through the way the compression works. Once you hear it, it is difficult to stop paying attention to it.

Right, high hats are a source of transients which get smeared because there’s a minimum block size in mp3 that is somehow too big to encode it temporally.

Re: Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio

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Who knew I would be locked into Spotify not by the music quality, but by playlists, friends, apps using it, and their Discovery mechanisms. Apple and Tidal may have awesome quality, but apps like https://musicleague.app/ have gotten me through Lockdown, and it turns out that these value props are very strong. I always thought I would instantly switch to a service for its audio quality, but then again, I can also buy…

I switched from Apple Music to Spotify for around 12 months, starting before but mostly overlapping with the pandemic lockdowns. I found their playlists, auto-play features, and discovery better than Apple Music's. Spotify links are ubiquitous on social media and elsewhere, which is nice (although Apple isn't far off either). And their Spotify Connect ecosystem is pretty nice: I loved how I could click the speaker bu…

I swear Spotify used to let me browse my library by Artist and only show me the songs I've liked/added for each Artist. But now when I view my library and navigate to an artist, I just get the public artist page.

You're not the only one. This alone is making me want to switch away from Spotify.

Why is it so hard to browse my library by artist?!

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Still not sure. Indeed I have Funkwhale on the radar, but tbh I don't have a strong use case for streaming at home. Was thinking about putting it on my rPi -- but in the end it's even easier to just stream from my iPhone through Bluetooth (or a good old jack). My priority is to build a clean library with beets, transcode it in mp3 and feed it to iTunes, to have it on my iPhone & iPod.

Honestly, the Plex app is very decent for music libraries these days. Except for oddball VA releases and obscure mixtapes I find Plex to often be terrific at library management.

Second about this. I thought Plex would be overkill at first, but Plex is fantastic for streaming personal music library over internet (especially with Plexamp). One of its best feature IMO is you can make it automatically transcode music to Opus when streaming over cellular or download them locally as-is, saving all headaches of syncing to iDevices.

Re: Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio

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From the article: > J Balvin said: [...] With Lossless, everything in the music is going to sound bigger and stronger but more importantly, it will be better quality. [...] There have been tests showing we cannot hear the difference between minimally lossy audio (e.g. mp3 320kbps) and lossless. But Balvin can. And it sounds "bigger and stronger". The extra quality of lossless is nice when mixing/remixing the sound, a…

> There have been tests showing we cannot hear the difference between minimally lossy audio (e.g. mp3 320kbps) and lossless. But Balvin can. And it sounds "bigger and stronger". On the contrary, you can actually do these tests yourself ( https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/... ). I and many others running good high end gear can repeatedly score well on these tests. Of course, it's not only the…

It's technically possible to distinguish between 320kbps and loseless but it's nothing to do with perceived sound quality or not but more of whether you're trained to hear high-freq sound domain which tends to more suffer from compression.

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Wow, I've been using Apple Music on trial to see how it's different from spotify and with this news + Spotify now selling pseudo-ads in the forms of playlist and recommendation algorithm placements for less artist royalties I'll stay with Apple for sure. One thing that really differentiates it is that the curated playlists seem a lot more cared for than with Spotify. I've found so many of the pre-made playlists that…

Yeah that's why I could never return to Spotify after using apple music for about a year now.

Spotify seems to be pushing out playlist after playlist without giving much afterthought. The quality is just not there , some seem to be auto-generated and a lot of playlist are duplicate/similar to each other.

Apple's playlist are regularly manually curated and you can know the theme just by glancing through their succinct titles.

Re: Apple Music Announces Spatial Audio and Lossless Audio

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From the article: > J Balvin said: [...] With Lossless, everything in the music is going to sound bigger and stronger but more importantly, it will be better quality. [...] There have been tests showing we cannot hear the difference between minimally lossy audio (e.g. mp3 320kbps) and lossless. But Balvin can. And it sounds "bigger and stronger". The extra quality of lossless is nice when mixing/remixing the sound, a…

> There have been tests showing we cannot hear the difference between minimally lossy audio (e.g. mp3 320kbps) and lossless. But Balvin can. And it sounds "bigger and stronger". On the contrary, you can actually do these tests yourself ( https://www.npr.org/sections/therecord/2015/06/02/411473508/... ). I and many others running good high end gear can repeatedly score well on these tests. Of course, it's not only the…

I just got 5/6 with just my MacBook Pro speakers (but am a musician). "Bigger and stronger" is kind of an asinine way to describe the difference though. Was "you hear more subtle details" too many words?

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No one uses ALAC, the industry standard is FLAC and has been that way for years, it’s pure arrogance that they continue to refuse to support it.

"no one uses ALAC" except every iPod, iTunes, iOS user that wants lossless playback for the past 17 years. I suspect quite a few people use ALAC.

Right, you’re repeating my point, no one uses it unless Apple forces it on them.

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> the sound appears to be coming from outside of my head, rather than between my ears It’s a pity that Apple doesn’t provide that feature as a simple option that one can apply to any audio source.

It gets activated on any audio source in a surround sound format, it can’t be applied to stereo sources because stereo audio doesn’t contain any positional info

It’s possible to apply Dolby Headphone (or similar systems) to any stereo signal, to get rid of the “in your head” sound.
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