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Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #447

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This is just one more specific problem. FB is nocive for the world. If you stay there, you are an accomplice.

I find the complaints overblown myself. It seems like just a site people can see posts from other people on, which relies on standard adtech for funding, which I also don't consider evil. The big thing was CA which can't even be proven FB was complicit in.

A gun is just a cylinder where a projectile comes from.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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If it's for principle, then you have to say why. Silent protest isn't.

> Silent protest isn't. Sure it is. If you boycott a company for doing something bad, you damage that company regardless of whether you are shouting from the rooftops or whispering it in a basement. When outsiders see a given Facebook resignation, it does send a message, but even if they quit silently, Facebook's management sees employees leaving. While Facebook's exec team clearly doesn't give a damn about doing wha…

They won't know why they left.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #296

He’s standing up for what he believes. You can disagree with his convictions, but you should admire anyone who risks personal and financial consequences for sticking to their guns. That’s what actual morality is—not just a “belief” that is talked about but acted upon even when the results will be costly.

It's the right thing to do. Facebook won't change by inside. Zuck will change his behavior when he feels the pain in his pocket. Every decent person must quit now. Quit. Now.

While it's always a good time to take the action, I'd expect anyone motivated primarily by morals and not compensation to quit long time ago already, or not join Facebook in the first place.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #49

I don't understand why doesn't Facebook just: -Allow all posts -Allow users to customize what they want to see (e.g. "dont show me posts that glorify violence" or "only allow covid posts that match WHO guidelines" or "allow exceptions from political figures or of historical significance") and allow users to ban hide posts that are found untruthful by third parties (snopes, etc). To me effectively everyone wins. Faceb…

What you're essentially advocating for is Facebook, exactly as it is today. Unless you default to censoring information, which is incredibly unlikely, you default to amplifying all hateful information.

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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That analogy does not work though. Landmine's sole purpose is to kill/injure whoever steps on it. I don't use Facebook much, but plenty of people have benefited from it. Instead of personal cost to him, I'd rather view it through the lenses of the impact of his action. It's inviting a lot of constructive conversation and making people re-evaluate Mark's decisions, which I think overall is a net positive.

> I don't use Facebook much, but plenty of people have benefited from it. Namely those who hold stock options or who used it to hyper target unsuspecting fools and scam them. > Instead of personal cost to him, I'd rather view it through the lenses of the impact of his action. Let's. The "constructive conversation" has been going on already. This doesn't move the needle on that conversation, it's not one with a lot of…

> Namely those who hold stock options

Oh sure those too. But small businesses benefit from it immensely, e.g using fb live and fb groups to connect with their customers for example.

> Let's. The "constructive conversation" has been going on already. This doesn't move the needle on that conversation, it's not one with a lot of grey area where the world is on the fence. This is great - for him. But not much else.

If that's the case, what do you think he should have done, or we should have done?

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #282

So he doesn't believe that one should be able to protect their property? If looting is not the one that should be discouraged with shots, then what about rape? If that also not, then where it starts? How do you stop looters? Asking nicely? Mob has its own personality and it doesn't have conscious. I don't like current US president (BTW I'm not US citizen, nor do I live there), but that quote wasn't the one people sho…

yeah the property is unfortunate, but why are police killing citizens with little accountability? thats the focus here, don't get it reversed

> ... why are police killing citizens with little accountability?

Any statistics to back that up?

"it is known" is not good data

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #478

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yeah the property is unfortunate, but why are police killing citizens with little accountability? thats the focus here, don't get it reversed

> ... why are police killing citizens with little accountability? Any statistics to back that up? "it is known" is not good data

which part would you like data on?

police killing citizens?

what is your goal post on accountability?

I'll try to match those standards with sources once I know what your standards are

Re: I'm resigning from my job at Facebook

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post #456

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Can you actually point to a success story in changing an organization from the inside?

It's already happening within Facebook this gallant lad falling on his own sword was an important motivator I'm sure https://www.theverge.com/interface/2020/6/3/21278233/mark-zu...

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