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Only if they decide they wouldn’t rather rape you too. https://www.cnn.com/2018/10/19/us/police-sexual-assaults-mar...
I'm wondering if you judge other groups by the worst behavior of any member of the given group?
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It was a natural experiment in what happens without police when the city is in the midst of an extreme wave of crime and violent protest, and one of the protests turns into a riot while the police were on strike. The idea that this incident demonstrates that any city will go up in flames immediately if the police take the day off is a misreading this specific moment in history. See: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Murr…
It only takes a tiny number of people to turn a city block into a war zone.
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I'm wondering if you judge other groups by the worst behavior of any member of the given group?
I don't believe there are any other groups, besides law enforcement & politicians, who have have unilateral or near-unilateral power to investigate and clear themselves of crimes, so I don't think this question makes sense.
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>Yikes, dude. I just don't agree with trying to ruin someones life forever, because they occasionally like to use drugs. As if that's what we're doing. "Yikes bro", maybe stop straw manning everything I said into some kind of crypto fascist fantasy? Maybe consider that not being able to have your elderly parents take the subway when they visit - because of risk of violence, or you just don't want them around open inj…
Cities like Seattle and San Francisco clearly have a problem with the mentally ill and drug addicted on their streets, I agree that just leaving it "as is" should not be acceptable to anyone. It is scary, leads to more crime being committed and the people using needles in the street clearly need serious help. Is criminalizing all drug users the answer though? We have 50 years or so of results there that show that has…
I am not advocating this though. I don't see anyone else in this thread advocating this either. I'm merely asking that we at least stop doing the insane thing of just ignoring it and letting people shoot up on the sidewalk or at the bus stop. I'm all for some creative solutions to this, fine, but the only thing that seems to gain traction today is "what we're already doing, but louder".
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I've noticed over time that things that can be done elsewhere on the world are impossible in America according to most Americans. I even particularly like America because it has more of the sort of liberty I like but it also has some of the most unbelievable defensiveness. For years, fibre was impossible in America. Turns out it wasn't. For years, bicycling was impossible in America. Turns out it isn't. Nothing is re…
Okay great. Then why does California a state with severe gun restrictions have such a problem with gang violence? Can you please explain?
Based on data and stats, 3 things are true 1. CA has no gang problem 2. As South and Central population in CA has gone up, homicides have dramatically dropped 3. As more gun laws are introduced gun violence has radically reduced
https://www.ktvu.com/news/oakland-murders-dip-to-lowest-leve...
https://laist.com/2020/01/15/violent_crime_Los_Angeles_LAPD_....
https://www.nbcbayarea.com/news/local/san-francisco/san-fran....
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Seeing how George Floyd moved to Minneapolis to do ministry work I bet he didn’t even know the bill was counterfeited.
Once one side starts speculating on things like this, the other side starts speculating on things like what was an intoxicated man doing in the driver's seat on a car. It's not helpful to the issue, which is that he was murdered by police, and that something needs to change to prevent something similar from happening again.
Offloading cases to social agencies wouldn't have saved him indirectly, either. Four cops were almost immediately available to subdue and/or arrest him.
Heck, it even looks like 5-303.01B here [1[ would have prevented Floyd's murder, had it been followed:
> It shall be the duty of every sworn employee present at any scene where physical force is being applied to either stop or attempt to stop another sworn employee when force is being inappropriately applied or is no longer required.
The problem has more to do with things that are squishier than policy: enforcement and the culture within the department.
1. http://www.ci.minneapolis.mn.us/police/policy/mpdpolicy_5-30...
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It's just a boring sit-in for hours before the clip starts. There is literally no context. The next night there isn't even an umbrella pretext, they just start spraying around 11:40pm after peaceful sit-in from 5pm. Here's video of the incident from 13 minutes prior (June 1): https://www.facebook.com/jessica.bundy.79/videos/36571421876... And earlier recording of the hours beforehand (June 1, earlier): https://www.fa…
This is a great example of what I said. I’ve seen this video from multiple perspectives. It is absolutely not the case that it started for no reason at all. That’s a total lie. There are no “pretexts” happening. These conspiracy theories are absurd. From the ground video of this same incident, it was seen that protestors were pushing on the fence. They then deployed umbrellas, some of which were deployed over the bar…
The protestors had umbrellas for hours; they were not "deployed" shortly before officers initiated violence. Protesters were up against the fence for hours and did not push it forward substantially. The umbrella the officer grabbed wasn't in anyone's face.
Note that 12,000 complaints were filed about SPD's overuse of force after that night.
> you can see some flashing from the crowd side - not sure what that is
Bud, that's a camera.
> But there is a clear pattern of escalation, tension, and confusion.
I totally agree with that statement. SPD repeatedly escalates peaceful situations into violent ones.
> The cops did not just say “let’s fuck up some protestors!” out of nowhere
Actually, they did, on video: https://twitter.com/Bishop_Krystal/status/126800997417045196...
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By civilizing the police we also mean affirmative action to bring the demographics of the officers in line with the people they serve. Removing guns wouldn’t have saved Eric Garner or George Floyd.
Near as I can tell, the four cops on scene were quite racially diverse. It’s not clear that that’s the only answer either.
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It's just a boring sit-in for hours before the clip starts. There is literally no context. The next night there isn't even an umbrella pretext, they just start spraying around 11:40pm after peaceful sit-in from 5pm. Here's video of the incident from 13 minutes prior (June 1): https://www.facebook.com/jessica.bundy.79/videos/36571421876... And earlier recording of the hours beforehand (June 1, earlier): https://www.fa…
This is a great example of what I said. I’ve seen this video from multiple perspectives. It is absolutely not the case that it started for no reason at all. That’s a total lie. There are no “pretexts” happening. These conspiracy theories are absurd. From the ground video of this same incident, it was seen that protestors were pushing on the fence. They then deployed umbrellas, some of which were deployed over the bar…
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>This is so obvious. Defund the police, and regulate their roles. >deprioritize protests/drugs/etc Yeah, already done that. And it's miserable . My parents came to visit (from the midwest and right before the pandemic) and were absolutely appalled at seeing needles on the street when we went out to dinner. I don't blame them, really. I blame the people who pretend that shrugging at enforcing drug laws is some sort of…
Yikes, dude. I just don't agree with trying to ruin someones life forever, because they occasionally like to use drugs. That's not political nihilism. I don't really consider seeing a needle in the street a "third world standard of living". I don't enjoy seeing litter, but it's a reality of living in an urban area. There's beer cans, and yes people toss bottles to, so there's shards of glass in the street, and it's n…
There's lots of countries where people wouldn't consider needles and feces in the streets to be the "reality of living in an urban area." For example Tokyo or Stockholm (both of which are in strongly anti-drug countries).