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That's not how mental illness works.
The lack of critical thinking skills is a mental illness.
Can you show me where it says this in either DSM or ICD?
Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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I don't believe that. There is research showing that online pornography distorts people's views of sex, making people less satisfied with their real life partners, and pushing their fetishes into more extreme territory. This is sex negative, and harmful. And I believe we can see the results of this with all the headlines talking about how people are having less sex. A larger and larger percent of orgasms are happenin…
>There is research showing that online pornography distorts people's views of sex I'd cautiously agree with this wrt commercial porn, where the negative effects, coercion etc are well documented and "sex negative" as you describe. Tumbler is full of OC. How on earth could this be seen as "sex negative"? These are adults, freely sharing their kinks. Not sure there's much room for outrage here.
They're still in a market, and the market rewards (with reblogs and followers if not money) more extreme and more addictive forms of whatever product is being sold.
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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While "Tumblr is for porn" seems to be received wisdom, let me play devil's advocate (angel's advocate?): most of us are just taking that for granted without digging in. In 2016, Motherboard actually did the digging, and discovered a few interesting numbers, categorizing 130M Tumblr users into "producers" of porn, "consumers" (those who follow the producers), and "unintentionally exposed" users who don't follow porn…
The problem is that the lack of content moderation was largely a selling point for the platform. Without explicit material its basically Instragram without Facebook owning it and with a worse UI. It might be slow but if you have no strong reason to be on Tumblr besides everyone having been on Tumblr you will see a slowly building migration away from Tumblr. And losing 1/4 the user base overnight is a great way to kic…
That's probably the biggest risk, yes: a big drop, followed by a slow decline. (Sort of the opposite of the "gradually, and then suddenly" line.)
I suspect the bottom line comes down to the bottom line, though; Tumblr has spent over a decade being a pit that absorbs money, and Verizon is not the kind of company that's going to run a service like that as an experiment. They're making a bet that kicking off the pronz will increase ad revenue, and I'm sure they have projections to back that bet up. That doesn't mean the projections are right, of course, but I don't see how a money-losing Tumblr would have continued under Oath. If this bet doesn't work and they shut it down, everyone will say "ha, we told you that you shouldn't have kicked off the pronz," but the pronz ain't never brought in the bucks for them, and we can safely assume "explicitly set out to monetize the pronz" was never in the cards.
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
#474Earlier quoted context omitted.
While "Tumblr is for porn" seems to be received wisdom, let me play devil's advocate (angel's advocate?): most of us are just taking that for granted without digging in. In 2016, Motherboard actually did the digging, and discovered a few interesting numbers, categorizing 130M Tumblr users into "producers" of porn, "consumers" (those who follow the producers), and "unintentionally exposed" users who don't follow porn…
The problem is that the lack of content moderation was largely a selling point for the platform. Without explicit material its basically Instragram without Facebook owning it and with a worse UI. It might be slow but if you have no strong reason to be on Tumblr besides everyone having been on Tumblr you will see a slowly building migration away from Tumblr. And losing 1/4 the user base overnight is a great way to kic…
> It only takes one blog in a web of follows jumping ship to motivate all the other producers and the fans of that blog and its related blogs to move to alternatives.
Perhaps this is a neglected downside. By banning porn you will turn a part of your platform into advertisments for your compeditors. Every post from a popular person saying "I'm moving to X" is an advert for X on your platform.
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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Sure arguing against the algos is fine. THAT should be under discussion, not censorship. Censorship is an easy out because every fucking person on this board profits off of algos that drive people insane and unhealthy but censorship is an easy out to avoid confronting the real problem.
You hit the nail on the head there. Blacklists just don't work for users. They work for providers, but only for CYA. Users need tools to help them find good useful things. This brings my morning routine to mind, which I explicitly designed to combat this feed poisoning that everyone is enduring. I literally hit the wikipedia random button every morning before I get out of bed. It's hooked into my morning alarm. I don…
This actually sounds interesting and I'll try it.
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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It seems strange to own Tumblr... and then reject a large chunk of it. Why even own it then?
Yahoo bought Tumblr for completely irrational reasons years ago and it became dead weight. Of course now they can't split it back off to live on its own - they'll just kill it instead.
Actually, why can't they? Could someone explain the executive thinking behind this hesitation?
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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Yahoo bought Tumblr for completely irrational reasons years ago and it became dead weight. Of course now they can't split it back off to live on its own - they'll just kill it instead.
Actually, why can't they? Could someone explain the executive thinking behind this hesitation?
Its career suicide to sell off a property that ends up successful once independent of your business.
Nobody thinks twice about burning something to the ground, though. Thats just a cost of doing business.
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> Japan never had any censorship rules before WWII This is not true. The obscenity censorship law dates back to 1907, and the enforcement of it for erotic content was also completely detatched from the occupation. https://www.reddit.com/r/japan/comments/4pss4u/why_is_porn_i...
Thanks for that. It's frustrating to make mistakes like that -- especially since I do my best to remove common misunderstandings about Japan. I'm as vulnerable as the rest :-( I really appreciate getting better information!
Yeah I used to believe the same factoid until I was corrected. Lots of stuff like that swirling around.
Re: Tumblr will ban all adult content on December 17th
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I'd say instagram is the other big one for artists, not twitter. Instagram has all the functionality of tumblr with even more accessibility.
I've known several photographers who have lost 25k, 100k+ followings by being banned from instagram for posts that did not break the ToS. This has been devastating to their careers as freelance artists. I wouldn't recommend leaving a more tolerant platform (tumblr) to put all your eggs in a FB owned basket. With instagram, it all seems to depend on who the mod is who got assigned the reported photo to look at. Many o…
Same with all sorts of legal cannabis business related pages. I see a lot of seed companies, dispensaries, culture/meme accounts with fallback accounts and bios saying ‘deleted at 25k...’, etcetera. It’s the same situation as consumers have long faced with Facebook, Twitter, Etsy and so forth - they don’t seem to care that other people invest time and money in their accounts, which the company tosses aside so easily.
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If brainwashing doesn’t work why don’t you rule the world? Why doesn’t somebody? If there is a known or knowable with some research way of altering the goals and beliefs of people permanently outside (or including) totalitarianism I am unaware of it. If you are aware I would appreciate some citations. If brainwashing worked a whole hell of a lot more of the world would be communist in name and fact than is the case f…
As much as I'm a fan of Gwern's work the conclusion he reaches is dead wrong. A high rate of attrition does not prove that brain washing does not work. It proves it works as long as a victim can be kept isolated, see previous comment about how cults do what they can to isolate their followers. The converse is also true, family and friends already belonging to some group is a powerful agent to keep an individual in th…
> As much as I'm a fan of Gwern's work the conclusion he reaches is dead wrong. A high rate of attrition does not prove that brain washing does not work
Yes, it does. What else could possibly show it doesn't work better than the fact that it doesn't work?