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1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by apetresc »

pbhjpbhj wrote: post #467
jonknee wrote: post #377

Earlier quoted context omitted.

If you take the time to FedEx your SSD to avoid customs you certainly made sure the disk was encrypted...

NSA can probably modify the firmware to create some sort of backdoor, if you actually look like that would be worthwhile?

Maybe the NSA can, maybe the NSA can't - but even if they could, I guarantee that customs/postal workers won't have access to it. Unless the NSA is specifically intercepting your particular SSD (in which case you have much bigger problems), standard enterprise-grade encryption will be good enough for shipping purposes.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by pwdisswordfish »

tankenmate wrote: post #74
peterkelly wrote: post #55

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Answer no, and it's just as valid as if you had a hand-written notebook full of work-related records that you left in your office back home before traveling. There aren't any reasonable justifications for requiring you to bring all information you physically have access to you with you when traveling, regardless of the format it's stored in. Not bringing something with you is inherently different from hiding it.

Lying to a federal employee is a felony; if you know you are answering untruthfully and the USG can prove it then you are probably going to prison.

I don't think lie detection using ultrasonography is very reliable...

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by ratacat »

adventured wrote: post #466
veidr wrote: post #425

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I was once on a list that got me secondary searching every single time I flew in the USA, for several years. This was back in the 1990s, when asking for your password wasn't a thing I've ever heard of them doing, but also when me bringing 128-bit encryption software (aka the US version of Netscape Navigator) to Japan, where I was a foreign student, was a serious crime akin to arms smuggling. Of course, I never found…

> he was on the same list, despite being a super rich fat white guy from Microsoft. What could the "fat" part of that possibly have to do with anything related to targeting, other than as a cheap excuse for you to denigrate Myhrvold?

Thank you for this.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by BearGoesChirp »

chx wrote: post #352

"May I search your laptop?" "Certainly." "But... this is practically empty." "Yes sir. I FedEx'd my SSD to the destination." I have a small SSD in the primary disk in my T420s, it has just enough to get me through the flight. I keep the primary in the UltraBay with a simple adapter, takes one reboot and no tools to put it back in place. Done. Happy searching! I can't log into anything even if I wanted to because I ph…

You forgot the end of the story:

"I'm denying you the ability to enter the country. Next time you let me see everything instead of being a wise guy."

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by apetresc »

peterkelly wrote: post #55
gruez wrote: post #31

Counter: the border agent asks "are you hiding any information from us?". answer yes, and they get you to disable travel mode. answer no, and you just committed a felony.

Answer no, and it's just as valid as if you had a hand-written notebook full of work-related records that you left in your office back home before traveling. There aren't any reasonable justifications for requiring you to bring all information you physically have access to you with you when traveling, regardless of the format it's stored in. Not bringing something with you is inherently different from hiding it.

It's not really the same thing at all. Something you leave in your office is something you won't have access to at your destination - so it's logical that it wouldn't be subject to customs. Something online, regardless of physical storage location, is something you will have access to at your destination, so it should be subject to customs.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by BearGoesChirp »

skewart wrote: post #300
zwily wrote: post #258

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So how does the whole "show us Facebook" thing work then? They're interested in your Facebook bits stored on the internet, not the bits on your device.

Right. And there is absolutely no legal justification for requesting you go fetch those bits from a data center hundreds of miles away and show them to the CBP employee. However, they are hoping that people don't know that and do it anyway, even though they don't have to. Also, a lot of CBP employees probably don't understand that distinction anyway. It feels like it's all "on the phone". Of course that distinction b…

>And there is absolutely no legal justification for requesting you go fetch those bits from a data center hundreds of miles away and show them to the CBP employee.

Except they are allowed to deny your entry if you don't satisfy their whims.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by mirimir »

sneak wrote: post #470
mirimir wrote: post #462

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If you're running three companies, you can carry throwaway devices.

You misunderstand me; it is not the issue of the cost of the device, but the 2-4h on each side of imaging and restoring (for mobiles) or the 4-8h on each side for computers.

Employees can handle imaging and restoring. You can send an employee in advance, who will have devices ready for you on arrival. So all that gets handled while you're in transit.

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by dmingoddd »

struppi wrote: post #397
davidp wrote: post #394

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Yep. Civil disobedience, unsurprisingly, includes breaking the law.

Yes. If you are a US citizen. If you are not, this can mean waiting for the next pane back in handcuffs and being banned from entering the US for life.

Civil disobedience does not need you to be a citizen of America..

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by SamBam »

sneak wrote: post #428
akvadrako wrote: post #415

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Any idea why this happens to you? Your story suggests some targeting.

For five years or so, I (a US citizen) politely but firmly refused to answer a single question put to me whilst re-entering the United States, as is my human right.

Not even "Was your trip business or pleasure?"

Border guards have the power to prevent you from entering the country if they believe your business is unlawful, and asking those questions is one of the ways they decide. We can question whether border guards ought to exist, but, given that they do, refusing to answer their questions seems like a ticket to a back room for hours.

You really never answered their questions on every entry?

Re: 1Password Travel Mode: Protect your data when crossing borders

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Post by dmingoddd »

Tepix wrote: post #405
struppi wrote: post #397

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Yes. If you are a US citizen. If you are not, this can mean waiting for the next pane back in handcuffs and being banned from entering the US for life.

Why go there in the first place? Doesn't sound very appealing.

To live the American nightmare and be in the land of the caged. lol!
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