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Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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I don’t understand how are they even checking the age ??

They aren't. The device administrators (ie. the parents) set an age range in the OS' config and then the OS tells applications the value. That's it.

The problem is that you may wake up and find this system enabled by default unless you submit to age verification, like the authoritarian bullshit Apple pulled in the UK.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Doesn't seem like most of the people on this thread actually read what they're planning. It seems like a very good solution to me. It gives parents a simple solution to define the age of the phones user and a mechanism to allow apps to get an age range and tailor usage appropriately. It does all this while leaving everyone else undisturbed. Put the age range into http headers and you solve children accessing content…

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Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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What a pain reading this blog post. It's about them complying with recent regulations, but they never mention it once: they word it so it sounds like they are doing this out of the good of their hearts. The words "law," "regulation," or "compliance" do not appear once, despite being the entire reason the post exists. Also on the "privacy-preserving tool", technically apps get a bracket ("16–17") instead of a birthdat…

The blog post lists regions where it is not mandatory

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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This is actually a step in the right direction. I don't want to share my id and selfie with every stupid social media app/site. I would much rather allow parents to configure their children's devices to share their age.

Their shitty API lets developers force you to verify your age with government ID and selfies, as part of the "ageRangeSource" field.

https://developer.android.com/google/play/age-signals/unders...

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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post #56

I don’t understand how are they even checking the age ??

They aren't. The device administrators (ie. the parents) set an age range in the OS' config and then the OS tells applications the value. That's it.

Google's shitty API lets developers force you to verify your age with government ID and selfies, as part of the "ageRangeSource" field: https://developer.android.com/google/play/age-signals/unders...

And the other problem is that you may wake up and find this system enabled by default for everything unless you submit to age verification, like the authoritarian bullshit Apple pulled in the UK.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Communicating via PGP encrypted snail mail seems an attractive option.

It would make for a good alternative, but so would any app that doesn't implement scanning. If they can force Signal to implement client-side scanning or ban it entirely, they can do the same to PGP software. In theory you could do RSA by hand, but it would require a lot of hard work.

Signal would rather tell a government to fuck off than implement any sort of client side scanning.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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> for example, on YouTube, you can no longer watch many videos without an account. I do not like this argument. Does an adult theater let anyone in without an ID? Do movie theaters let kids under 18 into an R rated movie without ID? Why do we think this should be different on the internet? IMHO, they should have Youtube 18+ (Adult book store) where you need an ID and YouTube I think it is evil that YouTube enables ki…

> I do not like this argument. Does an adult theater let anyone in without an ID? Do movie theaters let kids under 18 into an R rated movie without ID? Why do we think this should be different on the internet? I don't like this one either. Does the cinema store the ID (or information extracted from said ID) of every single user visiting, along with what they've watched, on electronic records that can and will eventua…

From my understanding is there is no law for movie theathers in the US to card people for the movies, also the MPAA guidence rating is a suggestion. It's not a requirement.

There are policies in the industry to suggest it.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Doesn't seem like most of the people on this thread actually read what they're planning. It seems like a very good solution to me. It gives parents a simple solution to define the age of the phones user and a mechanism to allow apps to get an age range and tailor usage appropriately. It does all this while leaving everyone else undisturbed. Put the age range into http headers and you solve children accessing content…

> It seems like a very good solution to me Until a KYC verification via Persona is required to prove you are actually of age. Coming in the next Android version.

The current version of the API seems to allow for that to be a requirement already, as part of the "ageRangeSource" field: https://developer.android.com/google/play/age-signals/unders...

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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> It’s also pretty obvious that saying “parent should take responsibility” is also not working. So punish those people. Stop letting them neglect the responsibility a parent innately has to their child and to the rest of us.

Stop punishing me by asking for ID when I buy alcohol!

That's a false equivalence and you know it.
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