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Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by dataflow »

fortzi wrote: post #458
thrance wrote: post #441

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Yes, and if you poll Israelis about their views of Palestinians, you'll find that the majority want to exterminate them all. What does that say about Israel? Fucking nothing except that we shouldn't be funding either of them. And we aren't arming Hamas. What matters is that pro-Palestinians aren't calling for the extermination of Israel, while Zionists are clearly calling for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza. Wanting the…

I don’t know, these chants of “river to the sea” accompanied by signs with maps of israel fully covered with a Palestinian flag tell me the opposite. > if you poll Israelis about their views of Palestinians, you'll find that the majority want to exterminate them all Can you point me to that poll, or is that just your opinion? > Zionists are clearly calling for the ethnic cleansing of Gaza First of all, you clearly do…

>> if you poll Israelis about their views of Palestinians, you'll find that the majority want to exterminate them all

> Can you point me to that poll, or is that just your opinion?

Not the parent, and not claiming anything about the truth or falsehood of this, but your comment got me to Google it, and this is what I found:

https://www.middleeasteye.net/news/majority-israelis-support...

https://www.trtworld.com/article/8802bc2d5043

Original source appears to be here: https://www.haaretz.co.il/magazine/2025-05-22/ty-article-mag...

Is this what you were asking for? What do you think of it?

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by halflife »

cardanome wrote: post #436
reliabilityguy wrote: post #416

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> The Palestinian Authority is Fatah and yes they are forced by Israel to suppress dissent. So, they still choose to do it, right? > As for Hamas How Israelis refusal to admit these officials to meet Hamas’s leadership makes the crimes committed by Hamas not true?

> So, they still choose to do it, right? This discussion started with you saying how bad Hamas was for executing Fatah collaborators in 2007 so not sure what point you are making other than agreeing with Hamas. > How Israelis refusal to admit these officials to meet Hamas’s leadership makes the crimes committed by Hamas not true? Inviting Humans Rights Watch does not seem like the behavior of an organization that has…

Holy hell, an actual bonafide unashamed Hamas apologizer in the wild.

Here you go, they have their own category of atrocities in Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Category:Hamas_attacks

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by weatherlite »

pydry wrote: post #343
weatherlite wrote: post #160

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How about killing 30k people (vast majority unarmed as far as I can tell) in a week or two?

The US lies through their teeth in the run up to launching military action. What else is new?

Yeah. right. The Iranian regime is the truth teller sure.

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by fortzi »

Hikikomori wrote: post #401
fortzi wrote: post #222

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Maybe you should ask a few Palestinians before making such statements. Polls made by respected Palestinian surveyors show immense support for Hamas by Palestinians [1]. If you dig inti the polls, you’ll find great support in continuing the armed conflict. I’ll add: to the last man standing. While I agree with you that Hamas and the Palestinians are not one thing, Hamas would not be able to operate the way it did (and…

Fighting your oppressors is usually popular with the oppressed.

Israel was prepared for peace a long time ago. Nowadays Many Israelis are convinced that the Palestinians don’t want peace, but rather a fight to the death. This thwarts any hope of trying for peace again on the Israeli side.

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by Hikikomori »

fortzi wrote: post #460
Hikikomori wrote: post #403

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"Anyone who wants to thwart the establishment of a Palestinian state has to support bolstering Hamas and transferring money to Hamas. This is part of our strategy – to isolate the Palestinians in Gaza from the Palestinians in the West Bank."

Right, the current Israeli administration is horrible, especially the far right that keeps it alive. I invite you to oppose that government and help the opposition take power. Instead, you’re making the opposition weaker by putting all the Israelis in one basket. You should read about the Oslo accords and the failed talks at Camp David. This is to say that Israel has been trying for a long time to make peace with the…

Dont need your victim theatrics, we both know who made that comment. We both also know Ben gurions private correspondence and what the plan always was for Israel.

We both know the majority of Israel supports the settlements and the status quo in Gaza, but maybe not the last few years. We both know they went out to protest against the punishment of your rapists.

Oslo and David talks included poison pills so that Palestinians would never agree to it. While I believe that Hamas should not exist I do believe the powers in Israel wants them to.

Essentially everyone but Israel supports the 1967 borders today, but Hamas does not recognize Israel, just like Israel didn't recognize Palestine in the Oslo accords, that would also allow settlements in the west bank to continue.

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by tomhow »

webdoodle wrote: post #23

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We have no policy or pattern of boosting or downweighting protests in any particular country, and neither of us are from the U.S. I think this one was only on the front page for a few hours over night when we were both asleep and had already been downweighted by the flamewar detector by the time we were online in the morning. Most protests in any country are probably off topic on HN due to being related to mainstream news.

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by reliabilityguy »

SanjayMehta wrote: post #444
reliabilityguy wrote: post #435

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I think it has more to do with nukes than oil. North Korea is a good example that once you have nukes, no one can touch you. No one wants more nukes, especially in the hands of IR, in this world.

I have no sympathy for the Iranian regime but the US' unilateral actions are worse. At least the Iranians mind their own business. At this point, every country which has natural resources which the US might want to steal should have nukes.

> At least the Iranians mind their own business

Except they don’t.

North Korea minds their own business.

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by reliabilityguy »

thrance wrote: post #440
reliabilityguy wrote: post #418

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> They hate the government that is trying to destroy their entire society. Given Irans track record wrt women rights, and inability of Iranians to accept violence toward their women, IR doesn’t need the US or anyone else to destroy their society. > Stop attacking a country half-way around the world, they will stop even thinking about us. Why would they? IR is ruled by radical Muslims who believe in spreading the rule…

Now apply this argument to Saudi Arabia and ask yourself why Iran is on the receiving end of this propaganda and not the former. America gives zero fucks about the oppressed minorities of this world, in fact, it is to blame for a lot of this oppression. War and starvation never improved any society.

> Now apply this argument to Saudi Arabia

What argument? Saudi Arabia and IR are fundamentally different countries and cultures. Do you see the same dissatisfaction of saudis with the ruling family?

Saudis are not interested in getting nukes unless Iran gets nukes.

Saudis are not revolutionaries and don’t care about the spread of revolution.

Re: Iran students stage first large anti-government protests since deadly crackdown

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Post by smashah »

fortzi wrote: post #455
smashah wrote: post #426

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It's a very funny meme when the The Worldwide Epstein Regime sends it's Satan's Chosen Einsatzgruppen to sacrifice tens of thousands of children in Gaza? Just because you consider those children as subhuman cattle? Please clarify your position on the Holocaust of Children in Gaza.

The entity that is choosing to sacrifice children in Gaza is Hamas. When you send kids as scouts to spy on enemy forces you assume they’re gonna get hurt. When you set up military commands inside schools and hospitals you choose to sacrifice your population. please clarify your position on using civilians as sacrificial cannon fodder in war.

Fascinating that Epsteinists always have unlimited justifications for committing a Holocaust of babies. What else can e expect from those that protect a cabal of child-raping, baby intestines munching demons.

For the record for the moderators, I have yet to do any genocide justifications on this platform unlike Satan's Chosen Contrarians have done so for the last three years constantly. Luckily Goebbels wasn't as shameless as these people lest contemporary history be even darker.

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