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Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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> world model

Another linguistic devastation. A "world model" is in epistemology the content of a representation of states of thing - all states of things, facts and logic.

This use of the expression "world model" seems to be a reduction. An that's too bad, because we needed the idea in its good form to speak about what neural networks contain, in this LLM sub-era.

Like the new widespread sloppy use of the expression "AI", this does not contribute to collective mental clarity.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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There's an old documentary where a film crew transported some of those "uncontacted tribe" guys to central London. Rather than being in awe of jet engines or networked internet, the tribesmen guys spent most of their time admiring house construction. "You're telling me there's METAL inside these walls?" I guess we tend to appreciate what we can understand.

I'm pretty sure this has been debunked as an online myth, and no such documentary exists. If you can show otherwise, I'd love to watch it

The documentary is real. I don't remember a house construction scene but it's been over 10 years since I watched it. It's not an uncontacted tribe, but tribes from Vanuatu and the Solomon Islands.

Meet the Natives:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S1DqarK4NlA

There is a second season where a different tribe go to USA.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Everyone is in agreement, this is impressive stuff. Mind blowing, even. But have the good people at Google decided why exactly we need to build the torment nexus?

huh?

I suspect he is referencing https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/torment-nexus

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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I see two ways this is going to go: 1. Universal Basic Income as we're on the way to a post-scarcity society. Unlikely to actually happen due to greed. 2. We take inspiration from the french revolution and then return to a simpler time.

> Unlikely to actually happen due to greed. Greed makes no sense in a truly post scarcity society. There is no scarcity from which to take in a zero sum way from another. Status is the real issue. Humans use status to select sexually, and the display is both competitive and comparative. It doesnt matter absolutely how many pants you have, only that you have more and better than your competition. I actually think this…

Imagine you discover tech that ushers in a post-scarcity society. Let's say you make a replicator that can make anything from a bit of dirt.

Greedy people wouldn't even think about sharing this tech with the world, even though they could literally end world hunger. They will hoard it, and use it to make themselves more powerful and to kill anyone else who looks like they might discover it.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Consistency over multiple minutes and it runs in real time at 720p? I did not expect world models to be this good yet. > Genie 3’s consistency is an emergent capability So this just happened from scaling the model, rather than being a consequence of deliberate architecture changes? Edit: here is some commentary on limitations from someone who tried it: https://x.com/tejasdkulkarni/status/1952737669894574264 > - Physi…

Gaming is certainly a use case, but I think this is primarily coming as synthetic data generation for Google's robots training in warehouses: https://www.theguardian.com/technology/2025/aug/05/google-st... Gemini Robot launch 4 mo ago: https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=43344082

This also seems pretty valuable to create CGI cut scenes...

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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> I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age What argument is required for excitement? Excitement is a feeling not a rational act. It comes from optimism and imagination. There is no argument for optimism. There is often little reason in imagination. > How to even find the value in living given all of that? You might have heard of the Bhagavad Gita, a 2000+ year old spiritual…

Genie 3 not only groks the Bhagavad Gita, it can generate "Blue & Elephant People: The Movie".

that g word makes me throw a little whenever i hear it. it's so ugly.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Why? Sure a virtual walk around the Pantheon in all its glory would be nice . But would that really improve history lessons? It doesn't help students understand why things happened, and what the consequences were and how they have impacted the rest of history of the modern world.

Engagement is one of the core pieces education and one of the hardest things to solve. If you remember back to being a kid, reading white papers is not really a thing. Interesting (e.g. engaging) teachers and field trips (which not all schools have access to) are tools that help kids learn. At the limit, if you could stay engaged you would be an expert in pretty much anything. "It doesn't help students understand why…

Or maybe the constant detachment from reality that this technology and social media provide will only make it seem like they're more engaged when in fact they're mentally retreating from the physical world.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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What is the purpose of this? It seems designed to muddy the waters of reality vs. falsehood and put creatives in film/tv out of jobs. Real Jurassic Park moment here

Arrogant profit seeking capitalist dick measuring that will break our societies and ours and our childrens worldviews under some pathetic label of "exploring a new scientific frontier"

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

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Advances in generative AI are making me progressively more and more depressive. Creativity is taken from us at exponential rate. And I don't buy argument from people who are saying they are excited to live in this age. I can get that if that technology stopped at current state and remained to be just tools for our creative endeavours, but it doesn't seem to be an endgame here. Instead it aims to be a complete replace…

Relax, contrary to expectations of the autistic misanthropes that abound here on this bubble, most of this is just computationally expensive slope and far, very far from even having the chance to become real AGI.
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