Hacker News Board Hacker News, browsed like a classic message board
Live data from Hacker News

Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

deepmind.google

Post reply on HN
Print view View original

141–150 of 512 posts

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#141

Post by myaccountonhn »

93po wrote: post #2

I wouldn't want to be a hollywood production studio or game developer right now.

I actually think indie game dev is quite safe from AI (well its already insanely competitive). It might change the field, or shrink the market but I think AI has a chance at replacing workers where the only metric that matters is $$$ and productivity. I just don't see myself consuming, for example, an AI generated autobiography or any AI generated book. As long as enough people feel that way the market will continue to be there.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#142

Post by idiotsecant »

A Mind needs a few things: The ability to synthesize sensor data about the outside world into a form that can be compressed into important features, the ability to choose which of those features to pay attention to, the ability to model the physical world around it, find reasonable solutions to problems, and simulate its actions before taking them, The ability to understand and simulate the actions of other Minds, the ability to compress events into important features and store them in memory, the ability to retrieve those memories and appropriate times and in appropriate clarity, etc.

I feel like as time goes on more and more of these important features are showing up as disconnected proofs of concept. I think eventually we'll have all the pieces and someone will just need to hook them together.

I am more and more convinced that AGI is just going to eventually happen and we'll barely notice because we'll get there inch by inch, with more and more amazing things every day.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#143

Post by dingnuts »

diwank wrote: post #70
modeless wrote: post #13

Consistency over multiple minutes and it runs in real time at 720p? I did not expect world models to be this good yet. > Genie 3’s consistency is an emergent capability So this just happened from scaling the model, rather than being a consequence of deliberate architecture changes? Edit: here is some commentary on limitations from someone who tried it: https://x.com/tejasdkulkarni/status/1952737669894574264 > - Physi…

> Future robots may learn in their dreams... So prescient. I definitely think this will be a thing in the near future ~12-18 months time horizon

what is a robot dream when there is clearly no consciousness?

What's with this insane desire for anthropomorphism? What do you even MEAN learn in its dreams? Fine-tuning overnight? Just say that!

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#145

Post by Aco- »

diwank wrote: post #70
modeless wrote: post #13

Consistency over multiple minutes and it runs in real time at 720p? I did not expect world models to be this good yet. > Genie 3’s consistency is an emergent capability So this just happened from scaling the model, rather than being a consequence of deliberate architecture changes? Edit: here is some commentary on limitations from someone who tried it: https://x.com/tejasdkulkarni/status/1952737669894574264 > - Physi…

> Future robots may learn in their dreams... So prescient. I definitely think this will be a thing in the near future ~12-18 months time horizon

"Do Androids Dream of Electric Sheep?"

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#146

Post by motoxpro »

ecshafer wrote: post #76
mclau157 wrote: post #26

I can see this being incredible for history lessons and history school lectures

Why? Sure a virtual walk around the Pantheon in all its glory would be nice . But would that really improve history lessons? It doesn't help students understand why things happened, and what the consequences were and how they have impacted the rest of history of the modern world.

Engagement is one of the core pieces education and one of the hardest things to solve. If you remember back to being a kid, reading white papers is not really a thing. Interesting (e.g. engaging) teachers and field trips (which not all schools have access to) are tools that help kids learn.

At the limit, if you could stay engaged you would be an expert in pretty much anything.

"It doesn't help students understand why things happened, and what the consequences were and how they have impacted the rest of history of the modern world." I would say the opposite, let's recreate each step in that historical journey so you can see exactly what the concequenses were, exactly why they happened and when.

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#148

Post by dingnuts »

neom wrote: post #123
diwank wrote: post #70

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Future robots may learn in their dreams... So prescient. I definitely think this will be a thing in the near future ~12-18 months time horizon

I'm invested in a startup that is doing something unrelated robotics, but they're spending a lot of time in Shenzhen, I keep a very close eye on robotics and was talking to their CTO about what he is seeing in China, versions of this are already being implemented.

[flagged]

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#149

Post by wahnfrieden »

fgafford wrote: post #138
wahnfrieden wrote: post #85

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Automation only leads to more labor if we allow that employer relation to dictate so. Automation affords leisure time (for everything besides labor that life has to offer, including optional labor-like pursuits) but it’s currently unevenly distributed who gets to benefit from that

You need to read Brave New World. Already have all that figured out. Work is fundamental part of society and will never be eliminated, regardless of its utility/usefulness. The cast/class system determines the type of work. The amount (time) of work is set as it was discovered additional leisure and to reduce it does not improve individuals happiness.

Try reading Dawn of Everything

Re: Genie 3: A new frontier for world models

#150

Post by casenmgreen »

modeless wrote: post #13

Consistency over multiple minutes and it runs in real time at 720p? I did not expect world models to be this good yet. > Genie 3’s consistency is an emergent capability So this just happened from scaling the model, rather than being a consequence of deliberate architecture changes? Edit: here is some commentary on limitations from someone who tried it: https://x.com/tejasdkulkarni/status/1952737669894574264 > - Physi…

The guy who tried was invite by Google to try it.

He seems to me too enthusiastic, such that I feel Google asked him in particular because they trusted him to write very positively.

Post reply on HN