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Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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That's the secret. If nobody used them, they would go away.

Our options shouldn’t be see no concerts from successful musicians or pay monopoly pricing. This is something government should solve.

You're right, of course, those shouldn't be our options. But that's just how it is. If you aren't willing to stop playing, the game will never end.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#462

This sort of ticketing thing is a trivially solvable problem. It is solved at every airport in the entire world millions of times per day. You provide the name of each concertgoer when you buy a ticket, and they show up with their ticket and ID. You often need to show your ID at these kinds of venues to prove you're old enough to drink beer anyway.

I’m not sure that would fly in Europe. And I personally don’t want to hand over my id to use a ticket

Exactly. The privacy characteristics of government ID cards are worse than any other solution. When sharing such an ID, a person is providing several global, stable identifiers (e.g. ID number, full legal name). For adtech and data brokers, this is the ultimate fingerprint for tracking and matching.

In a perfect world, the digitization of these IDs would come with modern digital privacy and security. Scanning your ID number would only provide a recipient-specific ID that couldn't be matched with other vendors. Age eligibility and driver's licensing status would be presented as separate signed attestations that share no other data.

We aren't even heading in that direction yet.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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post #434

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Just vote with your pocket and don’t buy tickets from them. I do that - yes I don’t get to go to major concerts but there are still so much more that is not on ticket master. I found a lot of new entertainment and was happy to pay $4 fee instead of whatever TM charges nowadays.

That's the secret. If nobody used them, they would go away.

That's why they've done so much to force performers to use them.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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post #318

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> Flying requires an ID. Attending a concert should not. Why though? Not disagreeing per say because I'd have thought so too, but upon reflection... I assume the main reason airlines require an ID is safety and security. We maintain a denied parties list and use identity verification to make it as difficult as possible to fly a plane into a crowded venue. Border control is another issue, but there's plenty of intra-c…

Is your argument that people should be unable to attend concerts/etc without presenting ID? I for one am not a fan of that idea

You need to show one to get a drinking wristband anyways (and avoid the hand Xs), or into any 16+, 18+, or 21+ show.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#466

This sort of ticketing thing is a trivially solvable problem. It is solved at every airport in the entire world millions of times per day. You provide the name of each concertgoer when you buy a ticket, and they show up with their ticket and ID. You often need to show your ID at these kinds of venues to prove you're old enough to drink beer anyway.

Flying requires an ID. Attending a concert should not. Any solution that is solved by "simple, just require an ID" is not a solution.

How are you getting into shows without presenting ID for age? Every (well, every legal...) venue I've been to in NYC cards to see if you are 21.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#467

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What if you need to arrive separately? Especially for a big event with tens of thousands of people, can be easier to meet up inside the venue on everyone’s timeline.

Then you should have thought of that when you bought the tickets I guess. Any change to the system to fight scalping is going to inconvenience regular users too. As a frequent concert goer, I’d happily have to arrive with my group if it meant no Ticketmaster.

So that makes it a shitty system that is really solving nothing. If I hypothetically have a group of 14-15 year olds that I buy Taylor Swift tickets for, does that mean I have to accompany them up through the line? Just dumb.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#468

This sort of ticketing thing is a trivially solvable problem. It is solved at every airport in the entire world millions of times per day. You provide the name of each concertgoer when you buy a ticket, and they show up with their ticket and ID. You often need to show your ID at these kinds of venues to prove you're old enough to drink beer anyway.

Hell, you just scan your ID at TSA nowadays. They don't need your ticket.

I flew about 3 days ago and they only asked for my minor children’s boarding passes.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

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post #71

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You're trying to get quantitative about a qualitative problem.

That's their point. They're poking fun at how the OP is speaking in absolutes about something subjective/ opinion based.

Speaking in absolutes about an opinion is just fine.

OP wasn't the one trying to define it.

Re: Reverse engineering Ticketmaster's rotating barcodes

#470
> Based on this, it might be reasonable to assume the rawToken is only valid for a 20 hour period

Bet your bottom dollar it’s good for 24h and they added 4h of buffer in their API guidance to handle admissions after the start of the show “for free.”

Not that this really gets you anything, just made me chuckle.

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