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Re: Google Pixel Fold

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What I don't like about these designs is that they have two screens, of which you'll only ever use one at a time. I preferred the designs of the devices that had the screen on the outside and wrapped around the outside of the hinge which also has the benefit of increasing the angle that the screen bends at. Oh and the price point feels very steep to me too, even as someone who has bought mainly from the top end in th…

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If this was around the 1200 price point they'd be selling like crazy. Chewing into the premium android and iPhone share. Google would have been a trend setter with foldables if they offered a lower price.

My theory is Google doesn't want to be too competitive, they mainly want to enable the Android market. If they're too competitive, Samsung, Motorolo, Oppo, etc will change to a different base. Google benefits from Android anyway by its embedded core of Google services. However, I think with the -a series (7a, etc) they've turned to filling a gap with a reasonably priced high quality device, because Samsung &c low pri…

That's a good theory, could also explain why pixel devices are only available in only a small part of the world population.

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Only charge up to 80% battery unless you need the full charge and the battery generally lasts much longer

Is there a place that has empirical data on this stuff? Like what battery factoids are still true with the latest devices or not? I would honestly love for phone manufacturers to outright build in some software to build in best practices if they actually exist. Don't let me charge to 100% at first or something!

My Note10 has this. You can switch on battery protection and it will stop charging at 85%

Re: Google Pixel Fold

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I just don't understand who wants these foldable phones, especially at the $1799 price point. I guess a use case is wealthy frequent travelers who don't want a separate device with a larger screen to watch movies/videos on the go? Someone help me out here.

Just like many people still don't understand why people have Kindles. They would think -- you can read books on phones, many of which are as large as 6.7 inches? Or Why not get an iPad or iPad mini, and you can do so many more things on it? So on and on. (I have two kindles and I don't personally know anyone who has a kindle. But that is fine.)

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A few hundred?! That's like a week of use. Does that happen a lot? Do we have a way of estimating the average number of folds a user can expect before failure?

Samsung tested their original Galaxy Fold to 200,000 folds [0]. At a generous 100 folds per day, that's about 5.5 years. [0] https://www.anandtech.com/show/14136/samsung-galaxy-fold-can...

That's the same Fold that everyone had to RMA repeatedly due to display failures. The story visited the HN front page at least once, and then Samsung did absolutely nothing to fix it.

I'm sorry, but I don't trust anyone claiming they've solved it until they've proven after 2 or 3 gens that there are no elevated failure rates.

Maybe this Google phablet will be the first that solved it, but I can't press X any harder for doubt.

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Agreed, phone screen size should be specified in square centimeters!

Yes, except in America where discussion of the metric system is banned in 48 states and therefore the unit of screen size measure is the stevethumb, defined as the area of the legendary thumbprint of Steve Jobs. Example usage: “Did you know the first iPhone’s screen was only nine stevethumbs? So tiny!”

Uh, the area should be measured like everything else. In fractions of football fields.

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Is there a place that has empirical data on this stuff? Like what battery factoids are still true with the latest devices or not? I would honestly love for phone manufacturers to outright build in some software to build in best practices if they actually exist. Don't let me charge to 100% at first or something!

I don't believe Apple has released empirical data, but Apple has optimized phone charging built into recent versions of iOS (Settings > Battery > Battery Health and Charging). It will stop at 80% and then resume charging to 100% about an hour before you start using your phone every day. iOS tracks your daily habits to determine the start of your day. In the most recent iOS versions, if it can determine when "clean en…

My iPhone 12 mini spends 95% of its life on a MagSafe charger and has never charged to 80% after a year with this setting enabled. I wish Apple would add an explicit option like "Protect Battery" on Samsung devices.

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"Who wants this expensive camera on a phone when you can buy a cheap phone and a Nikon DSLR?" Turns out... Plenty. Just like foldables. Samsung has been doubling shipments every year.

I just don't see any value in this feature while the OS is so limited. For now I'll stay with my foldable that comes with a keyboard.

That's why Google doing this is important. If they don't do, the app and OS situation will remain as it is.

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The voltage range of aged batteries is the same as the day they leave the factory. Or it could be even larger if the BMS is set up to sacrifice a little nominal capacity für lower wear when new, slowly widening the range as capacity decays. The temporary voltage drop while drawing a large current will be bigger on an older battery, that much is true. But that would still be a smaller delta than the one between fully…

Why don't you actually take some lithium ion batteries and keep checking the voltage? Because mine have dropped to 1.3V now, I noticed they weren't 1.5V to start, so they are crap, but it seems it just only goes lower as they age

What's the airspeed velocity of an unladen ion? A lithium ion cell at 1.5V is in deep discharge.
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