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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by rcarr » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 4:27 PM UTC

layer8 wrote: post #354

rcarr wrote: post #9

I agree with the author. I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision. Pretty soon I’m going to cancel Netflix and Prime too and just take out the odd month subscription to a streaming service if there’s something I really want to watch. I’m probably better off watching some informative documentary on YT than I am watching Netflix anyway and if I want entertainment, the…

> I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision. What’s great about YouTube Music is that it includes user uploads, meaning that you get tracks (e.g. video game music) and versions/recordings of tracks (like old 12" versions and remixes, or live recordings) that you are unlikely to get on a purely commercially-sourced music service.

I cannot agree more. In my opinion it's the only music platform that hasn't been entirely captured by the mainstream record labels. I get all kinds of cool DIY bands recommended through it. I got more good recommendations from using it in a couple of hours than I got in the last few years via Spotify.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by 93po » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 4:28 PM UTC

Youtube overwhelmingly shows me videos that it's showed me 100 times before and didn't click on, or stuff that I've already watched. The only time it's anything else is when a channel that I'm interested in posts new content. I find it super frustrating to the point I don't even bother going there anymore unless I'm looking for something specific.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by cronix » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 4:39 PM UTC

NaN1352 wrote: post #380

cronix wrote: post #261

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On the website I just click the X next to that section and it disappears for a month.

Yes it is then honored on the AppleTV app too. Unfortunately they still clog up the Subscriptions feed.

Strange. On the website, they disappear from everywhere. Your subscriptions feed, suggestions, etc. You just don't see them at all.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by cubefox » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 5:00 PM UTC

kowabunga123 wrote: post #438

cubefox wrote: post #368

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The NYT is very left-wing, so of course they are more willing to support and promote such theories. My point is that similar things could be said about the "woke" just as about the "alt-right", but Wikipedia would never allow such an article.

Yes indeed. I think you'll be astonished by the data demonstrating the trend here. It shows how around 2010 [1], there was an inflection point in main stream US media. It appears to be a coordinated campaign. Which would make sense given Operation Mockingbird [2] [1] "Many trends develop over decades but I’ve never seen change so rapid as the breathtaking success of what one might call social justice concerns. Beginn…

I think the inflection point did likely occur naturally by reaching "critical mass". Additionally such memetic processes are now sped up via social networks and their much more efficient means of communication. Particularly Twitter with its focus on short message length stands out here.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by circuit10 » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 5:12 PM UTC

grecy wrote: post #443

circuit10 wrote: post #433

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But links often go there as well

They do. Which means if you don't want your comment to go in the queue on YT, don't post links in comments.

Which really hurts your ability to share information with others, and it doesn’t tell you this anywhere so you can spend ages writing out a comment without realising that no one will ever see it

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by dmix » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 5:17 PM UTC

jsnell wrote: post #353

dmix wrote: post #259

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Twitter's recently rolled out their ad revenue sharing arrangement and it's a 20% margin (under $50k is 3%) vs YouTube's 45%. Maybe low balling the early days to build traction? Also people probably aren't consuming 1 person's Twitter the way they consume Youtube channels. https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/creator-dashboard Still it will be interesting to see how many hundreds/thousands of mom & pop careers w…

Is that really about Twitter sharing ad revenue? The page is just talking about paid "subscriptions" to Twitter creators. That seems like a business model where the revenue cut is irrelevant. Nobody will pay $5/month to subscribe to one person's tweets.

Yes the FAQ sucks but it's the same deal as TikTok/Youtube/etc: you get a 80% of revenue made from ads that appear on your content.

https://www.reuters.com/technology/twitter-share-ad-revenue-...

It apparently hasn't fully rolled out yet so the docs are confusing. They claimed it has started on Feb for Blue subscribers but that may change.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by dfxm12 » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 6:23 PM UTC

rcarr wrote: post #459

dfxm12 wrote: post #446

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As a Millennial, I can confidently say this is not true. I learned LAMP architecture as a kid by reading tutorial webpages and following along. No bank account or library card needed. Wikis and how to's were updated regularly, were uninterrupted by ads and were easily searchable! I learned SQL on a dynamic website where I could write code and see results (or errors) instantly! If I needed help, message boards were th…

Well as the Millennial who wrote the comment, I can confidently say that it is true. Just because you preferred to learn programming through reading tutorials doesn't mean that the same is true for everybody else or that text is the best medium for the majority of skills out there. I'm pretty sure the majority of mechanics and construction workers would prefer to see videos of a repair over a text description.

Just because you preferred to learn programming through reading tutorials doesn't mean that the same is true for everybody else or that text is the best medium for the majority of skills out there.

It's a shame this isn't what I said.

I'm pretty sure the majority of mechanics and construction workers would prefer to see videos of a repair over a text description.

Ah, so your source is "trust me, bro"? OK...

Also, don't just completely forget other methods of learning, some of which I brought up, like hands-on/experiential learning or learning from interacting with others. Good luck getting getting your ASE certification from just watching YT videos.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by tomcam » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 6:38 PM UTC

tomrod wrote: post #290

tomcam wrote: post #234

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> The academic discussion of potential counterfactuals, usually to be found in conferences and certain blog webs, were often misconstrued by content producers, conspiracy mongers, and others driven by less-then-truthful motives Don’t care. Price of a free press. > As this causes very real harm History shows that the people who suppress free speech are never the good guys, especially when it’s the US government or the…

> Price of a free press I'm not sure FB, YT, HN, Reddit, etc. are press. Can one publish local legal notices through them? > History shows that the people who suppress free speech are never the good guys To be fair, there are no good guys in history. Realpolitick or ideology are the only two options I'm aware of, and not for lack of thought though perhaps due to lack of imagination. We could argue that there is conte…

> To be fair, there are no good guys in history.

Disagree strongly. On balance the American framers (Washington, Adams, Hamilton, Mason, Jefferson, et. al) were amazingly good for the world, far better than Marx, Lenin, Mao, etc.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by [deleted] » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 7:03 PM UTC

hackernewds wrote: post #250

exo-pla-net wrote: post #222

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They shadow ban ~100% of comments, unless they detect positive sentiment. If you express any nuance or criticism, poof, your comment is disappeared. What remains is a sea of positive, fully vapid, fully useless comments: an authoritarian dream of milquetoast public discourse.

The problem with human comments are the humans?

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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by opan » Mon, Apr 24, 2023, 7:36 PM UTC

beAbU wrote: post #316

GalenErso wrote: post #104

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I open Incognito mode when I'm about to watch a video like that.

I discovered the other day that incognito mode removes the Premium privileges, which makes 0 sense to me. I want to watch one video without it contributing to my history, and now I'm subjected to ads again. No thanks.

Watch your one-off video with mpv+yt-dlp.