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Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by yreg »

rossjudson wrote: post #302
deepzn wrote: post #141

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true, I have to say "Not interested" a couple times

I think I've said Not interested in channel hundreds of times. Creators get one shot with me, and if I think your thumbnail is clickbaity, or you do anything to annoy me...your channel is out. My youtube recommendations are pretty good. I subscribe to a decent-sized set of pretty great creators -- ones that follow my personal rules without even knowing what they are...

There are many decent youtubers who have clickbaity thumbnails. Unfortunately it probably makes such a large money difference that they compromise. E.g. LinusTechTips.

Re: YouTube, the jewel of the internet

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Post by ianai »

evanchisholm wrote: post #29
irrational wrote: post #17

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> they had a youth where they could spend their entire time learning literally everything there is to know about their passion for free I have children between the ages of 9 and 26. You know what they are passionate about? Minecraft, Mr Beast, Travel vlogs, mommy vlogs, “reality” videos, etc. I’ve tried to introduce them to science, space, programming, history, math, finance, nature, etc. content and they don’t want…

I am currently in high school, you definitely are right that the majority of people my age do just waste their time on YouTube (I do too sometimes) but there are a few of us that really take advantage of it. I have personally spent a large amount of time on YouTube learning to program over the past few years, I have now become quite competent and built some pretty cool things on my own (search engines, chess bots, pe…

But what is the breakdown? 1 in 100, 1 in 1000, 1 in the entire school that gets YT as a knowledge mine?

(Possibly as simple as how many you know of compared to how much of the school population you know.)

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Post by jsnell »

dmix wrote: post #259
ckosidows wrote: post #254

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YouTube is like 10% of Alphabets profits and there are thousands of creators relying on it for a living. Anecdotal but the creators I follow all talk about YouTube giving them a much better monetization strategy than any other platform. So I don't think this will be any time soon

Twitter's recently rolled out their ad revenue sharing arrangement and it's a 20% margin (under $50k is 3%) vs YouTube's 45%. Maybe low balling the early days to build traction? Also people probably aren't consuming 1 person's Twitter the way they consume Youtube channels. https://help.twitter.com/en/using-twitter/creator-dashboard Still it will be interesting to see how many hundreds/thousands of mom & pop careers w…

Is that really about Twitter sharing ad revenue? The page is just talking about paid "subscriptions" to Twitter creators. That seems like a business model where the revenue cut is irrelevant. Nobody will pay $5/month to subscribe to one person's tweets.

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Post by layer8 »

rcarr wrote: post #9

I agree with the author. I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision. Pretty soon I’m going to cancel Netflix and Prime too and just take out the odd month subscription to a streaming service if there’s something I really want to watch. I’m probably better off watching some informative documentary on YT than I am watching Netflix anyway and if I want entertainment, the…

> I just cancelled Spotify and got YouTube Premium and it was an absolutely brilliant decision.

What’s great about YouTube Music is that it includes user uploads, meaning that you get tracks (e.g. video game music) and versions/recordings of tracks (like old 12" versions and remixes, or live recordings) that you are unlikely to get on a purely commercially-sourced music service.

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Post by gsatic »

mchaynes wrote: post #123
irrational wrote: post #17

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> they had a youth where they could spend their entire time learning literally everything there is to know about their passion for free I have children between the ages of 9 and 26. You know what they are passionate about? Minecraft, Mr Beast, Travel vlogs, mommy vlogs, “reality” videos, etc. I’ve tried to introduce them to science, space, programming, history, math, finance, nature, etc. content and they don’t want…

Gen Z here. I grew up on YouTube. I’m 25 now, so technically a cusper but had an iPod touch and YouTube since third grade. Videos of travel have a lot of value. I was stuck behind a desk for 4 years at my programming job. The last 7 months of travel has done so much for the rest of my entire human experience that I could never get from a textbook. Plus it’s fun to see people explore the world. We’ve been fascinated b…

Nice observation. Algos do unlock some of that value. But long way to go. Cuz they need much more info about ppl.

For example, I know my younger cousins like certain topics that they cant get enough off, but if I see them busy with exams or homework I hold back on pointing it out.

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Post by cultureswitch »

mastax wrote: post #81

I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

Generally agree, but I have had a couple of long term complaints which are seemingly never going to be fixed:

* There's no option to regulate how many times it recommends a video I have already watched. Ideally I'd like this to be arbitrarily close to zero. * The recommendations are much, much, much too biased on recently watched videos.

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Post by cultureswitch »

jahsome wrote: post #200
JKCalhoun wrote: post #182

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I am hooked as well. (But, please, stop with the YouTube Shorts, I'm just not that into you.)

I'd double my premium subscription fee to remove this feature from the Android app.

Watch YouTube through Firefox on Android. You can install an effective adblocker too.

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Post by jraph »

layer8 wrote: post #340
mastax wrote: post #81

I'm going to go against the grain here and say my YouTube algorithm is great. Signing out of YouTube and viewing the default home page is a reminder of the horrors that lie beyond, but my little corner of it is a bit too good. There was a period of time semi-recently when the algorithm was better than my heuristics, too. I had associated too-good thumbnails with overproduced shallow clickbait videos churned out by co…

The only complaint I have is that the recommendations are too biased towards what I liked or watched very recently. It would be nice to have a setting to adjust that recency weighting. Another, non-algorithm related complaint is that it’s difficult to watch a channel from oldest to newest, that is, keeping track of up to where you’ve already watched within the channel’s history, in order to pick up where you last sto…

> Another, non-algorithm related complaint is that it’s difficult to watch a channel from oldest to newest, that is, keeping track of up to where you’ve already watched within the channel’s history

Invidious with an account has been has been very useful for this. In the channel's pages, it shows what videos have been watched, up to which point.

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Post by echelon »

DontchaKnowit wrote: post #226
brewtide wrote: post #26

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I have a 9 and 7 year old and we are constantly enjoying such YouTube channels as "smarter every day", "veritasium" (spelling?), "Stuff made here", to some extent Colin furze, "technology connections", and other such edutainment. Not sure it speaks about differences in kids, in ages, in households, or likely a combination of sorts. Also, not a judgement on your kids, just a counterpoint about the resources available…

But those channels you listed are not educational, theyre "educational" e.g. you may learn some factoids about physics are learn about some cool experience but in no way will they impart to you a deep understanding of any subject. Those sorts of edutainment style videos are not ever going to compete against say, a college degree. Now there is excellent serious educational material on youtube, stuff like khan academy,…

> But those channels you listed are not educational, theyre "educational" e.g. you may learn some factoids about physics are learn about some cool experience but in no way will they impart to you a deep understanding of any subject.

And that's exactly what kids need. They can wait to hone rigor and scientific intuition. As long as the interest takes root, they'll find their way.

Veritasium is cut in the same cloth as Bill Nye (and Mr. Wizard before him), and we anecdotally know Bill inspired folks to pursue STEM.

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