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As a dad and an United States citizen, I am proud to call Joe Biden , my president. When he was sworn in as a senator - after his wife and daughter died in a car accident after he won the seat. He said: “If in six months or so there’s a conflict between my being a good father and being a good senator, which I hope will not occur, we can always get another senator but they can’t get another father,” As a father, I und…

Biden is literally the most popular president for Blacks in US history, blowing past Obama. Historic!

LOL Some HN racist Trump voter downvoted this. Facts hurt!

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The media doesn't have a role in declaring victory in elections.

They can’t declare victory, only project. Personally, I’m suspicious of the results, but if nothing changes, if fraud is not discovered, it’s a fair call.

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> Kamala Harris also made history as the first Black woman to become vice president, an achievement that comes as the U.S. faces a reckoning on racial justice. The California senator, who is also the first person of South Asian descent elected to the vice presidency, will become the highest-ranking woman ever to serve in government, four years after Trump defeated Hillary Clinton. Can someone explain that last senten…

The makeup of the US government does not reflect it's population. Harris wasn't the first female VP candidate to run for a major party. Geraldine Ferraro was the first, and Palin also ran in 08. Being a minority candidate doesn't mean they are qualified, but the lack of diversity in the US government is a huge problem. About 50% of America are women, and a large portion of America is not white. That's not represented by our government. Those firsts are important.

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Personally I think we are watching the slow death of the USA. May be from France I am not getting all the subtle details about the situation on the ground but the country seems to be completely divided. There is almost nothing now that holds America coherent as a country. It has too much variance to form a sensible cluster. It went from a basically almost racially homogeneous, English speaking, Christian - with a lot…

This just isn't true. The US has been a multiracial nation for most of its history due to the country's enormous population of enslaved and eventually emancipated black people combined with an extraordinarily liberal immigration system. The US's diversity is one of the things that differentiates it from nearly every European country. It's a good thing.

You using the Irish as an example is totally bizarre to me because they barely get along with the English (who are mostly also white and Christian). The Troubles were not that long ago and represent a level of political violence between different cultural groups that the US hasn't seen in a very long time.

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I've always felt that the Trump presidency served as an effective form of "Chaos Engineering". Regardless of your views of Trump's politics, his administration and method of leadership has exposed a lot of flaws in how our government has been designed and engineered. The postmortem of the last 4 years should be analyzed deeply in order to identify the weak points in the infrastructure of our government in order to ma…

I think see what you are saying, but your framing to me supports a dangerously wrong idea that seems to have a lot of currency . Trump is not some sort of wild outside anomaly, his gaining power is more of an emergent property.

Chaos monkey is intentionally outside the system, poking at it. Trump isn't this.

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I wonder what Biden is going to do about the coronavirus. Trumps denials don’t work but the things people expect Biden to do (mask mandates etc.) aren’t a magical solution either.

Well not now that it's progressed too far.

Full lockdown and masks would have worked just as well in America as it worked here in Asia if it was enforced quickly and with high adherence to the rules.

(worth mentioning everyone is -still- wearing masks here in Thailand every day and have been since early March)

Ironically a virus that began in Asia is now a Western problem because of inaction and/or lack of decisiveness.

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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As a Canadian, what stands out for me about the last two elections is that many Americans seem to desperately want a variety of political reforms, but neither party seems interested in providing them. Trump and Sanders both sold themselves as reform candidates in 2016, but only Trump wound up on the ticket.

Sanders might be the real deal, but he's not going to represent a major party until donation and campaign spending limits (like we have in Canada) reduce corporate influence on U.S. politics. Sanders scares away the "big money" that U.S. elections depend so heavily on.

Trump has not proven to be a reform candidate in any sense of the word. As a political outsider with control over both the house and senate for his first two years in office, he had the power to deliver meaningful reforms, but didn't. Americans desiring reform should have felt deeply betrayed by Trump's first term.

The democrats had a smoother primary in 2020, but decided on an utterly bland candidate. Biden is a return to the status-quo. I predicted that, after the last four years, a return to the status quo would appeal to many, but this election proves otherwise. This should have been an easy slam dunk for the Democrats to win, but it's turned out to be a squeaker!

If the democrats ride the status quo for the next four years and both parties were to run the same candidates again, I suspect Biden would lose. The Democrats need to pay attention to what Americans want.

I would suggest that Biden's administration should, despite running on a thoroughly status-quo platform, embrace reform. Too many Americans mistrust their own political system, to the point that they're willing to picket polling stations because they think fraud is being committed. That must be fixed. Finding ways to reduce the influence of money on politics (e.g. campaign spending limits) would be a good start. It will also be an easy sell to devolve and distribute some of the powers that have accumulated in the white house over the last several decades. If you're not comfortable with some of the powers Trump wielded during his time in office, then perhaps those powers shouldn't rest with the POTUS.

Bottom line, if the democrats try to pretend Trump never happened and couldn't happen again, they're in for unpleasant surprises.

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Nov 3 - Election Day

Nov 7 - News media called a winner (this is not an official act)

Dec 8 - Deadline for resolving election disputes

Dec 14 - Electoral college casts votes

Dec 23 - Deadline for receipt of electoral college votes

Jan 6 - Congress counts the electoral college votes

Jan 20 - Inauguration Day

Re: Biden wins White House, vowing new direction for divided U.S.

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To me what this election (as well as the 2016 election) illustrates, is what a poor set of choices we have had. In no sane world should it have been difficult for the Democrats to defeat Donald Trump in 2016. He had no history in political office, and he lost the popular vote to just about the worst candidate the Democrats could have put up. Had the Democrats put up anyone who was less divisive than Hillary Clinton t…

> Likewise this time around, nobody I have talked to seriously voted for Joe Biden on his own merits.

I voted for Biden because although I didn't always agree with Team Obama/Biden, they weren't 10% as divisive as Donald Trump.

Anecdotes aside, I'd love to see any real data you have on this topic.

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