Important updates: a) This does not apply to US citizens or their family members[1]. b) This does not apply to cargo[2]. It appears that the President misspoke regarding point 2. [1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/homeland-security-acting... . [2] https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson/status/1237921160500830208
Misspoke? It was a prepared statement read off a teleprompter. Please don't excuse it like a slip of the tongue.
U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days
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#462How is this going to help? They can get in from Africa, Canada, Mexico, India? Ban them all later???
Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days
#463Important updates: a) This does not apply to US citizens or their family members[1]. b) This does not apply to cargo[2]. It appears that the President misspoke regarding point 2. [1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/homeland-security-acting... . [2] https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson/status/1237921160500830208
a) is because as I understand it it's /very/ hard to legally refuse to readmit a US citizen. You can seize all their stuff at the border but besides arresting them for a crime you can't really keep them from coming home.
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#464This is insane. I haven’t been really scared of the pandemic yet, but if this is the response, now, I’m terrified. Changing the number of infected people entering the community does nothing when we already have transmission happening within the community at some fixed rate which is determined by the community . “Flattening the curve” of an exponential function means changing the rate of growth, not the fucking consta…
Who's going to die because they can't fly between the US and Europe?
I hope your flippancy turns out to be warranted. I just can’t get there.
Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days
#465Important updates: a) This does not apply to US citizens or their family members[1]. b) This does not apply to cargo[2]. It appears that the President misspoke regarding point 2. [1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/homeland-security-acting... . [2] https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson/status/1237921160500830208
Misspoke? It was a prepared statement read off a teleprompter. Please don't excuse it like a slip of the tongue.
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#466Earlier quoted context omitted.
The situation in Europe will be much worse a month from now than it is today, unfortunately. I'd bet on this ban lasting closer to 90 days than 30.
I suspect improvement when the weather warms. There is little community spreading in the summer countries of Africa and southern hemisphere.
Re: U.S. will suspend all travel from Europe for 30 days
#467Important updates: a) This does not apply to US citizens or their family members[1]. b) This does not apply to cargo[2]. It appears that the President misspoke regarding point 2. [1] https://www.dhs.gov/news/2020/03/11/homeland-security-acting... . [2] https://twitter.com/AnaSwanson/status/1237921160500830208
Misspoke? It was a prepared statement read off a teleprompter. Please don't excuse it like a slip of the tongue.
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#468Earlier quoted context omitted.
Don't blame him, blame the incompetent people he hired?
You can hire a whole team of perfectly competent people and all it takes is one slip-up to ship the wrong version of a file. I have no love for the administration, but I find it frustrating that people are so eager to attribute every single error, regardless of impact, to one name. If you go back one administration and search 'Obama clarifies' on google, you find the same thing. Turns out that press machines involvin…
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#469Earlier quoted context omitted.
I beg to differ. US was the first major country to ban travel from China. Other countries only followed suit after. South Korea, Japan, France, Germany and Italy never did, and see where they are now.
Please do not spread disinformation: Italy banned direct flights from China pretty quickly too. It did not matter, because patient-0 in Europe was a German. It’s now accepted that the virus arrived by crossing the Alps in some sort of Euro-business trip, not directly from China.
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#470Earlier quoted context omitted.
Banning public gatherings is really something that should be done on the municipal level, maybe the state level. The federal government should not have the power to disrupt every day life from thousands of miles away.
I sympathize with this view, but it does make it harder to respond quickly with nationwide lockdowns, which is the flip side of living in such a connected world. Long term, I think some mechanism to mandate more social isolation is going to be needed. For example when travelling from California to Arizona, there is currently no quarantine area or checkpoint, and that's fine if you want free movement, but then it's ha…