United States Files Civil Lawsuit Against Edward Snowden

Post by DiogenesKynikos » Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 4:31 PM UTC

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This is the "It is illegal to inform the citizen base that the government has removed their constitutional right" lawsuit. The NSA and FBI removed every US citizen of their constitutional right, to privacy. Edward Snowden informed the US citzen base on their constitutional rights being removed. This lawsuit is the government saying it is illegal for any US citizen to inform all other citizens when the government remo…

Rightly or wrongly, that is not a part of the SF86 form when one applies for a clearance. The SF86 form offers no leeway for moral objections. So in such a scenario, it would be better to not submit the SF86 form in the first place. The only people I'm aware of that can publish classified information without punishment are journalists.

Post by cwkoss » Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 4:52 PM UTC

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The only parties who could provide this evidence are govt agencies who are clearly not pleased with Snowden. Seems kind of silly to expect them to provide evidence to substantiate his claim. In the absence of contrary evidence, we should take Snowden at his word because none of his releases have been discredited as fabrications and thats the only account we have of the situation.

> we should take Snowden at his word because none of his releases have been discredited as fabrications That's a low bar. He didn't forge any of the documents he released. He did, however, repeatedly lie about what the documents contained and to corroborate hid interpretation, he wildly exaggerated what he was able to do while at the NSA.

Post by monocasa » Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:00 PM UTC

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What has the DoD done to restore that trust?

We will see.

Post by geggam » Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 5:35 PM UTC

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Upholding the constitution is not a citizen's job. It is the supreme court's. You can invoke your constitutional rights as a citizen,but you don't get to enforce it on behalf of somebody else, nor do you as an individual, decide what action constitutes a violation.

Upholding the constitution is absolutely the job of public servants, which is why our country makes them take an oath. Not sure why you think otherwise. CIA, NSA, Senators, all take this oath: “I, [name], do solemnly swear (or affirm) that I will support and defend the Constitution of the United States against all enemies, foreign and domestic; that I will bear true faith and allegiance to the same; that I take this…

Post by aldoushuxley001 » Wed, Sep 18, 2019, 6:09 PM UTC

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What crimes has Donald committed?

Campaign finance violations (his personal lawyer is currently sitting in jail for an illegal campaign contribution he carried out at the direction of Donald trump). Obstruction of justice is pretty well documented in the mueller report. Those are just the obvious ones