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Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by gm-conspiracy » Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 1:22 PM UTC

chipotle_coyote wrote: post #227

gm-conspiracy wrote: post #189

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My G4 iBook was amazing at suspend/resume, but each revision, it has gotten progressively worse. I am afraid of my brand new MBP w/ touchbar. I use it with the lid shut as a powerful Mac Mini. It is too fragile to move frequently.

People in my office (including me) move around with their MBPs pretty frequently. I know saying "other than the keyboard, they seem to be pretty well built" is the tech equivalent of "other than that, Mrs. Lincoln, how was the show," but I've never had any issue with waking up from sleep, or display issues when I disconnect the external monitor, whether or not the laptop lid is closed at the time. (I generally run wi…

Definitely not my experience. I usually have to open and close the lid to get the external display to work properly.

It could be my monitor or usb-c to displayport adapter, though.

Also, this is my 2nd current gen MBP in less than 6 months.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by NicoJuicy » Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 4:05 PM UTC

ionised wrote: post #433

NicoJuicy wrote: post #425

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I mentioned what Windows does and talked about something else i can compare. My relevant point was : It's measuring activities and performance yes, it's not stealing your information as the user activity is also anonymous. I don't see you making a relevant comment though.

> My relevant point was : It's measuring activities and performance yes, it's not stealing your information as the user activity is also anonymous. Firstly, how do you know it is truly anonymous? And is this anonymisation being done on the users machine, or one Microsoft's servers? If the latter, MS has access to unanonymised data. Secondly, cross-referenced with other 'anonymised' data sets it is quite possible to d…

They are pretty specific without hiding the fact what they collect here : https://privacy.microsoft.com/en-us/windows-10-feedback-diag...

A governement can automate it to follow it back to the user, but a corporation can't.

They are the only ones that show it this straight forward, can you find a page like that on one of the other big tech companies? ( Apple, Google, Amazon)

TL;DR; You can follow it back to a specific device, but you can't follow it back to "who is the user". Which seems to be a valid business decision, considering the complex matter they are in ( the biggest variety of devices and users).

You can also check it for yourselve: https://www.theverge.com/2018/1/24/16927056/microsoft-window...

Telemetry can also be disabled

This seems to be the worst, if a part of a document contains your personal data, when you are working on it and it crashes.

Full data includes all Basic and Enhanced data, and also turns on advanced diagnostic features that collect additional data from your device, such as system files or memory snapshots, which may unintentionally include parts of a document you were working on when a problem occurred. This information helps us further troubleshoot and fix problems. If an error report contains personal data, we won't use that information to identify, contact, or target advertising to you. This is the recommended option for the best Windows experience and the most effective troubleshooting.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by stefan_ » Fri, Jun 29, 2018, 8:22 PM UTC

ivan_gammel wrote: post #184

stefan_ wrote: post #112

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IO performance is atrocious. git status on a Linux tree takes a 10s of seconds.

Git works perfectly in PS, why would you need to run it in WSL?

Because compiling the Linux kernel doesn't? And well, that's another big thing with WSL, you can't share files.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by dzhiurgis » Sat, Jun 30, 2018, 11:35 PM UTC

makecheck wrote: post #103

It’s 2018 and I still see people walking around with Windows laptop lids open because they presumably have no confidence in Windows’ ability to sensibly preserve state after closing the lid. Software matters, and how it integrates with hardware. And I keep waiting for them to fix just the basics in Windows 10. Not utterly losing both the sizes and positions of all windows just because the laptop was undocked. Not fai…

Author uses IntelliJ which is a $1000 IDE ghat steals focus as you type in it...

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by freeone3000 » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 4:40 AM UTC

dbetteridge wrote: post #353

hackujin wrote: post #255

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I just don't want to use Windows to test my code when production is in Linux. There are things all those tools do when running in Windows that is specific to Windows. And I'm not some anti-windows Microsoft hating guy. My main desktop is running Windows 10 and I was quite excited for WSL to come out so I had Windows 10 Insider Preview running on my machine for more than a year. But at the end of the day when I want t…

C:\Users\Windows Username\AppData\Local\lxss\home\WSL username\.ssh ? Unless i'm misunderstanding the issue

Stuff in lxss is treated "special" - files in that directory have unix numeric permissions on NTFS instead of ACL permissions. Windows doesn't know how to set those, so if win32 subsystem is updating permissions (for instance, on file save) and the linux subsystem is updating metadata (for instance, on file save), it's possible to end up in a state where neither subsystem is able to get permission to touch the file again.

For this reason, it is recommended to only edit files outside this directory from both subsystems (not to say this isn't issue-free, but it's relatively reliable.)

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by freeone3000 » Mon, Jul 02, 2018, 4:41 AM UTC

hackujin wrote: post #435

dbetteridge wrote: post #353

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C:\Users\Windows Username\AppData\Local\lxss\home\WSL username\.ssh ? Unless i'm misunderstanding the issue

The file becomes invisible to WSL right after it gets edited in Windows. It's because it's doing weird tricks to associate UNIX permissions to files stored in Windows. The Windows app will break those permissions so instead of mitigating that in WSL it simply stops being able to "see" the file.

There's a perf hit. You may have noticed disk access in WSL outside this directory is slow. Inside this directory, wsl should be the same speed as w32 native, because it doesn't hit the magic layer.

Re: The Surface Book 2 is everything the MacBook Pro should be

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Post by Angelore » Fri, Jul 06, 2018, 1:21 PM UTC

eksemplar wrote: post #392

makecheck wrote: post #103

It’s 2018 and I still see people walking around with Windows laptop lids open because they presumably have no confidence in Windows’ ability to sensibly preserve state after closing the lid. Software matters, and how it integrates with hardware. And I keep waiting for them to fix just the basics in Windows 10. Not utterly losing both the sizes and positions of all windows just because the laptop was undocked. Not fai…

I’ve used windows since 3.11. Sure I’ve had a stint of Linux here and there, especially when I was young enough not to be bothered by the configuration. I’ve never not liked windows, though I did skip both ME and 8, but windows 10 has been such an awful experience that I bought a mbp late 2015 version last year, and I doubt I’ll ever use windows as my main OS again. I still use it at work, and while you avoid a lot o…

Do you have Intel graphics in there by any chance? I've had the brightness issue on xps 15, and it turned out that the Intel drivers were responsible.