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Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by Exuma »

tjoff wrote: post #354
nimbius wrote: post #117

Friendly reminder: this is the same Microsoft that "empowered" skype and once called open source a cancer. Its the same Microsoft that ruined open document standards and started the browser wars. I wouldnt be surprised to see next years release of "Github Pro Platinum with Minecraft 3D and Windows Store integration" For those looking to move, https://gitlab.com is an excellent open source alternative that can easily…

Friendly reminder: Skype was pure garbage before MS acquired it. I have no idea from where people got the idea that MS ruined Skype. Started the browser wars? Too bad the browser wars have been too small, because we obviously haven't learned anything from them.

You're totally off your rocker. They undeniably obliterated Skype in every possible way. Literally, it is an absolute abortion. Look on ANY community site about Skype, you will see its 95% livid rage to this sorry excuse of an app (including me, I actually used Skype for everything, now I'm forced to use the old version which hopefully isn't deprecated). https://www.reddit.com/r/skype/search?q=new+skype&restrict_s...

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by distances »

Const-me wrote: post #312
SSLy wrote: post #118

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nokia engineers wanted to move to Android, but the M̶S̶ ̶M̶o̶l̶e̶ then current CEO made a prikaz to go with Windows Phone.

> Nokia engineers wanted to move to Android I don’t believe the engineers spent thousands man-years developing in-house Symbian, then significant time working on (mostly) in-house Maemo, then some day they said “screw that, let’s throw away everything we’ve developed and move to Android”.

Nokia had and released their own version of Android [0] which probably sped up the negotiations with Microsoft. Likely done by a completely different team vs. the Symbian people, though somone else probably knows more of those details.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Nokia_X_platform

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by mkirklions »

hannasanarion wrote: post #358
mkirklions wrote: post #139

Yes, I think people should expect to move. Microsoft cannot be trusted. They make fine products, but they are definitely looking to make money from this acquisition. EDIT: This is to say that Github was not looking to squeeze their users. I have been squeezed by microsoft.

Economics is not a zero-sum game. Just because the company is making money doesn't mean that you are losing something. Github has been underwater for years, would you rather it be propped up by a big corporate sponsor that can subsidize its losses, or run out of money and die? I expect to move, because I also do not trust microsoft, but I am not moving yet until I see what they do with it.

>Economics is not a zero-sum game.

This is not what I'm implying.

>I am not moving yet until I see what they do with it.

If you are too late, you might not get your projects off without paying fees.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by ecoqba »

strogonoff wrote: post #305

Seeing GitHub acquired, I can’t help but imagine that Gitlab would go that route sooner or later. Their free offering is even more extensive than GitHub’s, and I don’t think there’s visibility into whether their revenue from paid plans is enough to offset that. Since becoming backed by a major player is both a blessing (cash reserves to fuel the free offering!) and a curse (drive to increase shareholder value could g…

One minor difference is that Gitlab is open source, you could fork it and run it privately if Gitlab ever gets acquired.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by dmarlow »

Dayshine wrote: post #255
AsyncAwait wrote: post #174

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Their license for the .NET Core debugger makes it so that only they can use it, JetBrains and others cannot, see [1], they haven't changed at all. 1 - https://blog.jetbrains.com/dotnet/2017/02/15/rider-eap-17-nu...

My understanding is that the debugger is an adapted version of the closed source Visual Studio debugger. Visual Studio isn't open source, and is a paid for product. It takes time to break things out from inside a larger closed source project...

Some editions are, I suppose. For many things VS Community is free though.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by oaiey »

garyclarke27 wrote: post #384

Wow $7.5 Billion, a nice juicy sum for a company that has influence yes, but very limited profit potential, considering that developers (despite earning well) seem to be v reluctant to part with their cash - juding by anecdotal evidence of numerous comments here, expecting everything to be free and moaning about piddling costs such as Sublime Text licence. Wonder how Linus Torvalds feel? The sellors should send him a…

This is not only for extend their profits but also to protect. Imagine what it meant to Microsoft if another of the big five would have acquired it. Just think of Amazon and a deploy to AWS button.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by mar77i »

bloopernova wrote: post #126
naiyt wrote: post #102

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> The era of the intelligent cloud and intelligent edge is upon us. I still have no idea what "intelligent edge" is supposed to mean.

Are we the intelligent edge?

No. We're the bleeding edge. Suffering from illnesses such as propaganda-resistance and DIY attitude.

Let's move our open soresx elsewhere to bleed.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by kamaal »

bad_user wrote: post #32

People keep mentioning how "Microsoft changed" due to VS Code, the Linux subsystem, .NET Core. I say that they are the same company, only with different cash cows. Haven't they spied on Windows 10 users? Do they not engage in patents racketeering? Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype? " But Mom, some of the other companies are doing it too ", well yeah, but some of us don't have double standards, in spite of wh…

>>Haven't they killed Nokia and ruined Skype?

To be really frank Nokia killed itself in the after math of the iPhone. But that was long time coming. When a company which wasn't even your prime competitor an year or two back, out innovates you to the graveyard, you really were setting yourself up for something like this for a while.

And yes, WhatsApp did the same to Skype.

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by sydd »

jacquesm wrote: post #207
AsyncAwait wrote: post #137

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Apparently people didn't like having fully locked down computers and they discontinued the product, shocker. They do, it just can't pretend to be a full on computer, see the iPad.

It doesn't have to pretend, it is a full computer that is intentionally crippled by the vendor. Apple doing it to doesn't make it any less despicable. These stupid strategies turn perfectly good computers into landfill.

It is as a full computer as an iPad, and was never meant to be more. It has a dumbed down version of Windows, has ARM architecture and was lacked down from day one.

Why aren't people pissed that they cant install Linux on their iPhones and iPads?

Re: Microsoft acquires Github

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Post by contravariant »

Someone1234 wrote: post #455
contravariant wrote: post #393

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Nobody here is claiming proprietary code is inherently bad (some people definitely do, but not in this thread), they're just saying it makes a poor example of Microsoft embracing open source.

JetBrains products aren't Open Source. So how is embracing a closed source for-profit company anything to do with embracing Open Source?

You're asking why releasing an open source debugger has anything to do with embracing open source because there are closed source companies that are also making a debugger?
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