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Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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> I check the score and if they are below a 4.6 I text and inform them that THEY need to cancel and request another driver. I'm amazed that doesn't backfire. Skeptical, in fact.

This has happened to me so many times, lost like $5 each time.

And you haven't reported it and gotten a refund?

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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I too am not a fan of tipping culture. But I don't see it as welfare for Uber, if Uber charged 18% more, and passed it on to drivers, the net effect would be the same. One thing I think it would do is harm the perceived cost of uber rides. Partitioned pricing works. Anchoring users on a lower base fare + 20% service, is, unfortunately, "cheaper" than 1.2 * fare for most people. At minimum Lyft would have to agree to…

it would be worse for drivers, because uber would take a 30% cut of that 18%.

Balanced out by the fact that the 30% (or whatever the number) who don't tip would now be paying a fairer share, instead of being effectively subsidized by other fares.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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No Tipping is one of the main reasons I liked Uber; no cash, no pressure, you just get out of the car and walk away with everyone happy. I would rather pay more for each fare and have Uber aggressively prohibit tipping. I suspect many people feel the same way and if Uber doesn't get it under control, it could be the biggest challenge they face.

As a non-American this is how I feel about tipping in general. It's so much easier to just pay people a decent wage, include it in the cost of things and then not have the pressure of tipping. That, and tipping is akin to having paid servants. i.e. " if you do a good job, and if I feel like it, I might give you some of my wad of cash. Or not, sucker.". (Of course, I do tip because the servers rely on it, I just don't…

What do you mean that it's "much easier to just pay people a decent wage"? Do you mean that it's much easier to convince companies to pay their employees more than they have to, or that it's much easier to pass higher minimum wage laws?

Neither of these seem easier than "convince the public to toss in a few extra dollars when they use a lowly paid service".

I see "make sure that all working people are paid fairly" as a very difficult problem, and tipping as a moderately effective hack that's easier to implement than the cleaner fix of higher minimum wage of basic income.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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The destination shows up when the ride starts (i.e. you get in the car). Calling beforehand is a an indication that the driver might want to cancel the ride if the destination is "inconvenient" (e.g. from city center to a remote suburb).

Or to a "bad neighborhood"

I don't know why you're using quote, there are legitimately dangerous neighborhoods that someone may not want to drive to at 2:30 AM. Granted, if that's the case, then they shouldn't be Ubering at 2:30 AM, but it's still a legitimate concern.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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No Tipping is one of the main reasons I liked Uber; no cash, no pressure, you just get out of the car and walk away with everyone happy. I would rather pay more for each fare and have Uber aggressively prohibit tipping. I suspect many people feel the same way and if Uber doesn't get it under control, it could be the biggest challenge they face.

As a non-American this is how I feel about tipping in general. It's so much easier to just pay people a decent wage, include it in the cost of things and then not have the pressure of tipping. That, and tipping is akin to having paid servants. i.e. " if you do a good job, and if I feel like it, I might give you some of my wad of cash. Or not, sucker.". (Of course, I do tip because the servers rely on it, I just don't…

What if we called it "pay what you can".

With 100% of the amount over the minimum ("the bill") going to the staff, not the ownership.

There's sharp disagreement among the patrons on whether to keep servers in rags or riches. Some of this comes down whether the particular customer sees the restaurant as 'good for a plate food' versus 'a part of the neightborhhod'. We allow people the option of choosing which they see it as.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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I really hate tipping culture in America. In Germany, servers are surprised if you give them anything more thana euro. I have friends who visit from non tipping cultures who ask "Why isn't it just included in the price!" I agree with the author. Tipping is out of hand. Charge more for food, clearly state it on the menu/check, remove the tip black on the receipt and pay people a decent wage!

Tipping culture is actually one factor which makes it unattractive for me to travel in the US. Too much mental costs.

That plus the insane practice of not including tax on displayed prices in stores. What the actual fuck.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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This has happened to me so many times, lost like $5 each time.

And you haven't reported it and gotten a refund?

No I usually kick the curb really hard and then get mad at myself for nearly breaking a toe. Rinse and repeat. I should though.

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That's a broken rating system. Why would 4.7 (a 94% score) be middling percentile? And I thought school grade and work title inflation was bad...

It's the nature of surveys. People know that a sub-100% rating in most surveys is bad - troubleshooting sub-perfect ratings shows up all over the place from restaurants to call centers. So happy people give perfect ratings - 5 stars in this case - for the most part. Drivers have to rate riders before they get their next ride, so every rider gets rated by every driver they pair with. Lyft states (at least they did) op…

This is why if you have a car salesman you like it's important to give them a perfect rating, including the areas where they're not even mentioned, as the entire survey reflects solely on them. If the question asked how your experience with the Finance Manager was, and you give it a 9/10, it could cost your salesman thousands in bonuses, and have no negative impact on the FM at all.

Re: Uber Driver Tip-Hustling Schemes

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What in this list would you do differently? I'm probably a weirdo with insufficient empathy, but I have a hard time imagining how a civilized person would behave otherwise.

I get into the car, surf the web and never talk to the driver. Occasionally if driver starts a discussion I give short answers so it stops quickly. My rating is fine and I enjoy no human interaction

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