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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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The trick is to keep only "facebook.com/messages" in your history (or bookmarks if you use that). That way the browser autocomplete from your history and you get directly to the messages.

Just use http://messenger.com then

Also https://m.me

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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I'm interested as to why someone like yourself, a likely tech-savvy HN user, the kind of person who notices how their chats effect ad serving, does not block ads on facebook. Care to share?

The ads are also embedded in the News Feed itself, in the form of "friend X likes Y page" and the like. I'd imagine it would require an ad blocker specifically designed for Facebook to block it. Same goes for the sidebar. I don't use Facebook enough to care; uBlock Origin suits my needs just fine.

The embedded ads in the News Feed can also be blocked by a extension like uBlock Origin. The additional filter is found from ABP, if I recall.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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I'm interested as to why someone like yourself, a likely tech-savvy HN user, the kind of person who notices how their chats effect ad serving, does not block ads on facebook. Care to share?

Adblocking wouldn't address any of the four points that pikachu_is_cool raised. For point 3, Facebook could still be analyzing the contents of messages.

Yah, I agree. But I'm still surprised that a adblocker/tracker blocker isn't used by that kind of individual.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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It's a loosing game to use "open" web solutions to provide a third party application to these silos. Twitter already killed themselves this way (they're just too big to die quickly), and I think facebook will too. Facebook as "facebook" is useful and fun, and a way to connect with people and share stuff. Facebook as "messenger" is phone service. It's infrastructure that's part of your life. It's part of direct human…

I agree completely with you on this matter and this change will probably bring me back to using SMS and email more. I really hope RCS will catch on in the future, but there are extra obstacles in addition of all these competing corporate silos of this happening - carriers. Depressing.

RCS? Would that be: http://www.richcommunicationsuite.com/ ?

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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>Takes up zero memory and resources, that must be some magical web app. Sarcasm much? If I'm not using it, it's using no resources. When I'm using it, then duh , it uses transient resources in Chrome, but when I close the tab, it's back to zero. If I end up using it once every two months, the amortized resource usage is probably 0.1% of an app that needs to receive push notifications. >Messenger is not a just another…

Sarcasm, you stated no memory and resources, thats not true. Shill no, Facebook is the largest connected social network, thats fact. If I want to message someone ill know they have a Facebook account. Just because you have biased, anecdotal evidence about you receiving 5 messages in 12 months from Messenger doesn't mean squat. Unlike your oddball use case, the majority of people want notifications for messaging apps.…

This comment crosses into personal attack, which is not allowed here. Please read the site guidelines and edit the nasty bits out of your posts in the future.

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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Practical enough for me. The only thing I use Facebook for is to say "Thank you" when folks wish me a happy birthday on my "wall". For literally everything else, the friends and family worth talking to have gotten the message that I'm not reliably reachable on Facebook and therefore should be reached by other means (and if they're worth talking to, they should already have my phone number and/or email address). It's…

Then why do you even have a facebook account?

Because I'm too lazy to delete it. ;)

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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The ads are also embedded in the News Feed itself, in the form of "friend X likes Y page" and the like. I'd imagine it would require an ad blocker specifically designed for Facebook to block it. Same goes for the sidebar. I don't use Facebook enough to care; uBlock Origin suits my needs just fine.

The embedded ads in the News Feed can also be blocked by a extension like uBlock Origin. The additional filter is found from ABP, if I recall.

Good to know, thanks.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I suspect it's less about solving problems and more about breaking out of that web browser sandbox to siphon up more of that juicy, juicy data.

Text messaging is enormous and it is going to get a lot bigger as companies monetize it with service and retail chatbots. The competition is fierce and although Facebook has the best position, it is not written anywhere that it will remain in that position forever. It's crucial to get the experience right, and you do yourself no favors by distributing your user base and developer resources across multiple platforms.

Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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post #11

So rather than fixing the problems that result in users messaging via the mobile web app instead of the messenger app, they're just going to "solve" the problem by forcing users to use the messenger app? This is why Facebook as a company doesn't have high levels of consumer trust. This will bite them in the future. Once you lose that level of trust it is extremely difficult to gain back.

I suspect it's less about solving problems and more about breaking out of that web browser sandbox to siphon up more of that juicy, juicy data.

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Re: Facebook disabling messaging in its mobile web app to push people to Messenger

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I was thinking something along similar lines. It's not like I brought my friends to Facebook in the first place - we all just ended up there. Even worse, so did my parents and their friends. If I had brought them to Facebook in the first place, that'd be one thing, but it is so big it has it's own pull, and honestly I don't think I can compete with that. What's more is I don't want to - if I have to hard sell someone…

as I reflect on the sentiment of this message, I am brought to tears. these soldiers won't fight to save their own asses, much less will they risk their own necks. their friend's just wound up here. it's not my fault. it's not my fault. we failed before we tried.

We tried. It didn't work.
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