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Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by wlonkly »

harimau777 wrote: post #367
zdragnar wrote: post #93

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Pretty much any place with brutalist architecture, really. I'll happily take pretty much any revival or classical style over "modern" or brutalist style. There's nothing more depressing than walking by beautiful historic old buildings only to turn a corner and see a monstrosity of concrete and glass somehow reaching the epitome of bland and uninviting.

I never understood the dislike for brutalist architecture. To me, at least it looks like something. It's got soul and expresses an artistic idea even if that idea is "the overbearing power of the state". Personally, I'd take that over the soulless glass and steel buildings that seem to be today's alternative.

Brutalism isn't named after brutality, it's after French _brut_, "raw", as in exposed (raw) concrete.

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by joquarky »

ex-aws-dude wrote: post #153
dbacar wrote: post #59

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Apart from some lucky places, most of the world cities looks like this or worse.

That is something I've found over the years with traveling. You watch a bunch of travel videos and think the place you're visiting is going to be so different but its just the same overcast sky and ocean and washed out color palette as home. Once you remove all the filters, color correction, and drone shots from influencer travel videos a lot of places look the same IRL.

I like the walking videos with minimal editing. They feel more genuine and I get to see places I'll never get to see in person.

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by strken »

ahoka wrote: post #306
strken wrote: post #288

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I don't hate brutalism but I'd much rather have the https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Royal_Exhibition_Building than QPAC, rain or shine.

I think both look ugly and megalomaniac.

You're entitled to that opinion, but if you give an alternative for how a big multi-storey building for large events and crowds should look then it will move the discussion forward.

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by dahart »

sbarre wrote: post #409
dahart wrote: post #404

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That sounds like a recipe for skimping on safety and design systemically. No thank you. You can’t legislate aesthetics, and there’s already a huge incentive to make buildings look great. People already spend a lopsided amount on the facade making it look better than it is, rather than spending on where they should: foundation, structure, good design, and longevity. In my city, apartment buildings used to require stee…

> In my city, apartment buildings used to require steel structures and lawmakers relaxed the requirement so they went back to wood because it’s cheaper. Now the new ones look great but they’re burning down and falling apart at higher rates than before. Are you in Denver?

Nope, but I’m not surprised if this is widespread… :(

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by csomar »

eru wrote: post #339
csomar wrote: post #277

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Most of Singapore looks like the Soviet Union: https://www.google.com/maps/@1.3756813,103.9459007,3a,90y,26... Sun/Light has a lot to do with it. The place linked looks fine/tolerable but put that in the northern of Europe/America and you'll looking at the edge of depression (at least for myself).

Yes, that's how a lot of Singapore looks like. It's an HDB car park. But your picture of the Soviet Union is perhaps a bit too rosy. I'm not sure why you'd be depressed? It's a picture of a construction site in a car park. Sure, I'd love having the car infrastructure being less front and centre, too. But otherwise it's fine.

> I'm not sure why you'd be depressed?

I was saying I'd be depressed or it would be depressing, in Singapore. What I was saying is that if you match that place with a grey sky, in cold climate with slow rain, that will be the definition of depression (at least for me).

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by theendisney »

gk1 wrote: post #379
theendisney wrote: post #143

Im a professional cleaner, there is lots of wonderful looking design out there that is impossible to clean. There is also a huge difference in how quick it looks dirty. Some things are easy to clean but if you have to do it 3 times per day in stead of once a week its going to be needlessly expensive and still look dirty half the time.

What are some striking examples from your experience? BTW this is what I love most about HN - the surprising variety of people you can learn from, from billionaire founders to expat bingo-card geeks to Georgian-onion sellers to Dutch pro cleaners...

On a Light surface tiny stains stick out, on a dark floor tiny flecks of dirt stick out as if under blacklight, a concrete color with some smudge patern may get extremely dirty without anyone noticing it (which might also not be what you want) a dark floor with a pattern of tiny white dots can also look very clean while dirty.

Any porous material is a terrible idea, you get lots of surface area that you cant reach. Carpet, curtains, upholstery.

Gaps between things should be big enough for how deep they are. Tiny legs under sofas or closets are not useful for anything. Adjust the size of the gaps between wall panels to your favorite kind of insect or rodent.

The funniest one i've seen was a city with a lot of mosquitos where someone put giant neon letters outside under a roof. In a few days it was completely covered in highly active spider turf war dens enough to make a grown man scream. Apparently spiders love roofs and they obviously know flies like light.

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by JimDabell »

csomar wrote: post #277
eru wrote: post #113

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Singapore does actually look like the renders. By and large.

Most of Singapore looks like the Soviet Union: https://www.google.com/maps/@1.3756813,103.9459007,3a,90y,26... Sun/Light has a lot to do with it. The place linked looks fine/tolerable but put that in the northern of Europe/America and you'll looking at the edge of depression (at least for myself).

Funnily enough, I live a couple of minutes walk from this spot, I guess you are nearby? HDBs can look a bit samey, but that photo does a bit of a disservice to Singapore. There are also quite lovely HDBs as well:

https://thehoneycombers.com/singapore/unique-hdb-blocks-desi...

And of course the surrounding area there is pretty amazing, loads of green spaces and wildlife on your doorstep. A large part of this video was filmed just around the corner, for instance:

https://vimeo.com/494315018

They are currently building a new HDB estate right on the edge of a coastal park five minutes from that location. Even without the sunlight, it’s a pretty great place to live.

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe »

aembleton wrote: post #328
Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe wrote: post #207

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UBI does not mean you don't work, nor you can't earn a lot of money. It just means we don't let you starve if you don't work and we stop making you work out of fear of leaving you starve if you don't. I'm a psychiatry resident and developper. I have never been paid for my dev work but have produced quite a lot on my free time (site: w.olicorne.org ). I would do psychiatry pretty much no matter how much I'm paid for i…

> It just means we don't let you starve if you don't work and we stop making you work out of fear of leaving you starve if you don't. Seems inefficient to pay for everyone to have kitchens in their house and pay them cash to get ingredients to cook. Couldn't we just employ some of these people as cooks and have them make meals in a centralised kitchen in every neighbourhood? A bit like the British Restaurant idea: ht…

I don't see the connection with what we were talking about but:

- soup kitchen are a thing: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Soup_kitchen

- community fridges too: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Community_fridge

- and historically in france where I'm from, when we started having freezer technology it first appeared in shared houses for the whole village. People would go there once a day to fetch what they needed and would eat it. Can't find english sources but it seems very efficient. A least much more than every one having a fridge. https://france3-regions.franceinfo.fr/pays-de-la-loire/mayen...

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe »

jonahx wrote: post #432
Ey7NFZ3P0nzAe wrote: post #263

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> most would be doing very different work, and working for different organizations (or none at all) if money weren't the driver. With UBI I wouldn't be surprised if those would be even more productive doing something else they want. And others who couldn't do the CS curiculum even though they would have loved to because they had to find a job quickly would plausibly be at their place instead. I really view UBI as som…

> And others who couldn't do the CS curiculum even though they would have loved to because they had to find a job quickly would plausibly be at their place instead. Unfortunately, also wishful thinking. A particular kind of wishful thinking endemic to naturally highly curious, academic achievers (not a dig, I am one). But -- and if you don't understand this, spending some time teaching at universities makes it abunda…

I am aware that most of the world isn't like this. But I am also aware that there are many people who more than anything want to share things they made, have a positive impact etc. In other words : there are 10x engineers and 10x altruists and some are even both. I am convinced that they collectively could make basically unlimited progress on things we all agree on: less sick people, more happy people, less waste, better environment, etc. I'm sure you've seen some random genius on youtube who built things in their backyards that are normally only buildable by conglomerate with advanced logistics. I just want them to not have to worry about an algorithm and sponsors and accomodate spaced for them to worl together on things.

> it doesn't maximize value across society

Well you'd have to define "value" here. I am sure GDP would plummet because bullshit jobs would plummet. The current society is doing maybe a decent job at producing but a terrible job at making it "across society". We still have millions of people dying every year of very preventable causes just because of the lack lf coordination. I think this would be better if we had less noise in our daily lives caused by the system so inefficient that we have bullshit jobs.

Re: Antirender: remove the glossy shine on architectural renderings

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Post by pfannkuchen »

HPsquared wrote: post #318
pfannkuchen wrote: post #241

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What would happen if you run it on a spacecraft? Blank image comes back?

There are plenty of grungy spacecraft images out there. Buran in storage: https://edition.cnn.com/style/article/baikonur-buran-soviet-... Image link: https://media.cnn.com/api/v1/images/stellar/prod/17103111131...

(See: “Poland cannot into space” meme)
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