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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by HarHarVeryFunny »

tylervigen wrote: post #164

I am personally impressed by the continued improvement in ARC-AGI-2, where Gemini 3 got 31.1% (vs ChatGPT 5.1's 17.6%). To me this is the kind of problem that does not lend itself well to LLMs - many of the puzzles test the kind of thing that humans intuit because of millions of years of evolution, but these concepts do not necessarily appear in written form (or when they do, it's not clear how they connect to specif…

There's a good chance Gemini 3 was trained on ARG-AGI problems, unless they state otherwise.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by kryogen1c »

ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #151
bnchrch wrote: post #87

I've been so happy to see Google wake up. Many can point to a long history of killed products and soured opinions but you can't deny theyve been the great balancing force (often for good) in the industry. - Gmail vs Outlook - Drive vs Word - Android vs iOS - Worklife balance and high pay vs the low salary grind of before. Theyve done heaps for the industry. Im glad to see signs of life. Particularly in their P/E whic…

They've poisoned the internet with their monopoly on advertising, the air pollution of the online world, which is an transgression that far outweighs any good they might have done. Much of the negative social effects of being online come from the need to drive more screen time, more engagement, more clicks, and more ad impressions firehosed into the faces of users for sweet, sweet, advertiser money. When Google final…

> They've poisoned the internet

And what of the people that ravenously support ads and ad-supported content, instead of paying?

What of the consumptive public? Are they not responsible for their choices?

I do not consume algorithmic content, I do not have any social media (unless you count HN for either).

You can't have it both ways. Lead by example, stop using the poison and find friends that aren't addicted. Build an offline community.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by _2d30 »

Gemini 3 is crushing my personal evals for research purposes.

I would cancel my ChatGPT sub immediately if Gemini had a desktop app and may still do so if it continues to impress my as much as it has so far and I will live without the desktop app.

It's really, really, really good so far. Wow.

Note that I haven't tried it for coding yet!

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by fractalf »

bitpush wrote: post #412
ThrowawayR2 wrote: post #151

Earlier quoted context omitted.

They've poisoned the internet with their monopoly on advertising, the air pollution of the online world, which is an transgression that far outweighs any good they might have done. Much of the negative social effects of being online come from the need to drive more screen time, more engagement, more clicks, and more ad impressions firehosed into the faces of users for sweet, sweet, advertiser money. When Google final…

This is an understandable, but simplistic way of looking at the world. Are you also gonna blame Apple for mining for rare earths, because they made a successful product that requires exotic materials which needs to be mined from earth? How about hundreds of thousands of factory workers that are being subjected to inhumane conditions to assemble iPhones each year? For every "OMG, internet is filled with ads", people a…

I dont think your comment justifies calling out any form of simplistic view. It doesnt make sense. All the big players are bad. They"re companies, their one and only purpose is to make money and they will do whatever it takes to do it. Most of which does not serve human kind.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by agnosticmantis »

xnx wrote: post #163
santhoshr wrote: post #60

Pelican riding a bicycle: https://pasteboard.co/CjJ7Xxftljzp.png

2D SVG is old news. Next frontier is animated 3D. One shot shows there's still progress to be made: https://aistudio.google.com/apps/drive/1XA4HdqQK5ixqi1jD9uMg...

This says Gemini 2.5 though.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by nick32661123 »

recitedropper wrote: post #411
orly01 wrote: post #326

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Why should it have to be expensive computationally? How do brains do it with such a low amount of energy? I think catching the brain abilities even of a bug might be very hard, but that does not mean that there isn't a way to do it with little computational power. It requires having the correct structures/models/algorithms or whatever is the precise jargon.

This is the million dollar question. I'm not qualified to answer it, and I don't really think anyone out there has the answer yet. My armchair take would be that watt usage probably isn't a good proxy for computational complexity in biological systems. A good piece of evidence for this is from the C. elegans research that has found that the configuration of ions within a neuron--not just the electrical charge on the…

Following the trend of discovering smaller and smaller phenomena that our brains use for processing, it would not be surprising if we eventually find that our brains are very nearly "room temperature" quantum computers.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by [deleted] »

stephc_int13 wrote: post #305
tylervigen wrote: post #164

I am personally impressed by the continued improvement in ARC-AGI-2, where Gemini 3 got 31.1% (vs ChatGPT 5.1's 17.6%). To me this is the kind of problem that does not lend itself well to LLMs - many of the puzzles test the kind of thing that humans intuit because of millions of years of evolution, but these concepts do not necessarily appear in written form (or when they do, it's not clear how they connect to specif…

What I would do if I was in the position of a large company in this space is to arrange an internal team to create an ARC replica, covering very similar puzzles and use that as part of the training. Ultimately, most benchmarks can be gamed and their real utility is thus short-lived. But I think this is also fair to use any means to beat it.

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Re: Gemini 3

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Post by gordonhart »

film42 wrote: post #337
crawshaw wrote: post #320

Has anyone who is a regular Opus / GPT5-Codex-High / GPT5 Pro user given this model a workout? Each Google release is accompanied by a lot of devrel marketing that sounds impressive but whenever I put the hours into eval myself it comes up lacking. Would love to hear that it replaces another frontier model for someone who is not already bought into the Gemini ecosystem.

At this point I'm only using google models via Vertex AI for my apps. They have a weird QoS rate limit but in general Gemini has been consistently top tier for everything I've thrown at it. Anecdotal, but I've also not experienced any regression in Gemini quality where Claude/OpenAI might push iterative updates (or quantized variants for performance) that cause my test bench to fail more often.

Matches my experience exactly. It's not the best at writing code but Gemini 2.5 Pro is (was) the hands-down winner in every other use case I have.

This was hard for me to accept initially as I've learned to be anti-Google over the years, but the better accuracy was too good to pass up on. Still expecting a rugpull eventually — price hike, killing features without warning, changing internal details that break everything — but it hasn't happened yet.

Re: Gemini 3

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Post by tibbar »

LiamPowell wrote: post #288
thegrim33 wrote: post #266

Earlier quoted context omitted.

"Allow access to Google Drive to load this Prompt." .... why? For what possible reason? No, I'm not going to give access to my privately stored file share in order to view a prompt someone has shared. Come on, Google.

You don't want to give Google access to files you've stored in Google Drive? It's also only access to an application specific folder, not all files.

Well, you also have to allow it to train on your data. Although this is not explicitly about your Google drive data, and probably requires you to submit a prompt yourself, the barriers here are way to weak/fuzzy for me consider granting access via any account with private info.
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