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Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by duskwuff »

afandian wrote: post #408
Sharlin wrote: post #356

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> Task switching is.. not good? I don't get window previews I can switch through when I hover over the dock, but I do on Linux. That just sounds like being accustomed to one way of switching tasks, honestly. If I want previews, I use Expose (three-finger swipe up/down or ctrl-up/down). But mostly I just use cmd-tab and haven't really needed to see previews there. Because macOS switches between applications , not wind…

The app switching behaviour is really infuriating. Selecting a window and having all the app’s windows come to the fore, obscuring the window from another app is still annoying, 20 years on. And then when you full-screen a window, switch to another app for a moment, and then you can’t find it without delving into the ‘window‘ menu. First world problems. But daily annoyances.

> Selecting a window and having all the app’s windows come to the fore

... would only happen if the application you switch to is enforcing it for some reason. Ordinarily you can interleave windows all you want.

Switching to an application by clicking on it in the Dock or Cmd+Tabbing to it will bring all its windows to the front, though.

Re: M5 MacBook Pro

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Post by bigyabai »

leakycap wrote: post #403
bigyabai wrote: post #390

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> Macs barely got faster for ages with Intel Intel chips were getting faster. It's well documented (and glaringly obvious in the i9 16") that Apple just didn't want to accommodate the full TDP. They tweaked their ACPI tables to run the chips until they hit the junction temp so they were both constantly hot and constantly throttling. Apple tweaked all of their Intel chips in this way, which was a software solution to…

> Intel chips were getting faster Do you consider margin-of-error, single-digit gains to be worth arguing over? Intel offered 14nm for 4 years straight: Skylake, Kaby Lake, Coffee Lake, Coffee Lake Refresh—four different names, same process node, and 3-7% gains each year. Such fast. > The old MBP chassis designs are so awful that Apple doesn't consider them viable for cooling ARM CPUs You don't put a 15-20W chip into…

The 13" MBP chassis is not built for 90W though, let alone 50W. Intel was making 30W i7 chips and they were still throttling in that chassis. I think we have enough benefit of hindsight to blame Apple's egregious and power-hungry ACPI tables for not throttling to safe temps. I own several other laptops that do not hit 90c, ever.

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Post by linehedonist »

lholden wrote: post #369
0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

What’s missing in the terminal app?

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Post by chrismorgan »

jiggawatts wrote: post #424
chrismorgan wrote: post #204

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ASUS’s ZenBook Duo (UX84060) is over 50% dearer in Australia than in the USA. When it was announced, I expected it to be at least 4000 AUD (~2600 USD). When I heard it was starting at 1500 USD instead (~2300 AUD), I was astonished and very excited. And it still is that price… but only in the US. In Australia it is 4000 AUD (the 32GB/1TB model, which is 1700 USD, ~2600 AUD). So I sadly didn’t get one. Is the rest of t…

Australia has actual consumer protections such as mandatory warranty repair for years on most high end electronics. This is the “real price” that includes the vendor’s estimated failure rate and cost to repair. Americans pay the same amount, but… stochastically. PS: Health care is similar. Australians pay a fairly predictable amount via taxes and Medicare, Americans gamble with bankruptcy every time they break a leg.…

Both have a one year warranty.

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Post by snowwrestler »

stevage wrote: post #446
lholden wrote: post #369

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I ended up doing something similar a few years ago. Picked up a MacBook Pro M1 Max back when the M1 stuff was new to replace an aging Lenovo running Linux. I actually really loved my Lenovo + Linux, but the M1 was new and shiny and I desperately wanted better battery life. The hardware was great, but life on a Mac always felt a bit convoluted. Updating the OS was especially frustrating as a software developer because…

The one that always surprises me is that there is absolutely no image editor of any kind. But really, I just don't use that many desktop apps (or at least, not generic ones) so I don't have much of an issue on MacOS.

I frequently edit images in Preview on my Macs.

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Post by petesergeant »

WXLCKNO wrote: post #114

Pretty funny how they're actively targeting M1 users with their marketing copy with this release. Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade lol.

Yeah, I believe all their claims about speed, but I just don’t do anything that my M2 doesn’t seem to find effortless…

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Post by godelski »

arccy wrote: post #383
godelski wrote: post #361

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> two Firefox windows onto different desktops My favorite is how it'll force move your workspace if you get a popup. To reproduce, get a second monitor, throw your web browser onto that second monitor (not in full screen), and then open a application into full screen on your laptop's screen (I frequently have a terminal there). Then go to a site that gives you a popup for OAuth or a Security Key (e.g. GitHub, Amazon,…

I'm truly annoyed at it reordering the desktops even when i have just a single screen (the built in one). I expect my programs to be in certain order, so switching between them is predictable. Or sometimes it just decided to open a link in a new chrome window instead of just opening a tab.... and not even consistently.

That gets extra weird with a second monitor. I really cannot predict where a workspace on that monitor will land when disconnecting. It could be prepending or appending. I think it orders based on last active but my lack of confidence should even say something. I mean just because you interact with a program doesn't mean that was the last active program... crazy that I can scroll or type into a window and it not be considered the active window

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Post by acomjean »

root_axis wrote: post #263
0xfaded wrote: post #52

To any Linux users, I recently bought a fully loaded M4 MacBook pro to replace my aging Lenovo and strongly regret it. I thought I would use it for playing with LLMs, but local dev on a Mac is not fun and I still don't have it fully set up. I'll probably replace it with a framework at some point in the near future. Edit: okay, that garnered more attention than I expected, I guess I owe a qualification. 1. Everything…

Yes, macOS sucks compared to Linux, but the m chip gets absolutely incredible battery life, whereas the framework gets terrible battery life. I still use my framework at work though.

The AMD chips I'm using with integrated graphics have 6+ hours of battery life (system76 pangolin) and the newer intel ultra chips are decent on battery too. +/- a bit depending on how hard you end up pushing them machine. Huge improvement over my frist linux laptop, though it had a nvidia chip set but would go only 2-3 hours per charge.

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Post by YZF »

DrProtic wrote: post #281
leakycap wrote: post #260

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> Sorry you made your first gen chip so good that I don't feel the need to upgrade M1 MacBooks are ~5 years old at this point, and if you've been working a laptop hard for 5 years it's often worth getting an upgrade for battery life as well as speed.

Battery power on M1 16” was so good when new that even severely degraded is still pretty good.

I switched from an M1 to a new M4 (this is my work laptop and it had a problem) and the old M1 has a much better battery life than the new M4. Quite noticeable. The M1 was such an awesome machine. The M4 is faster, but the M1 was plenty fast.

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Post by stevage »

snowwrestler wrote: post #455
stevage wrote: post #446

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The one that always surprises me is that there is absolutely no image editor of any kind. But really, I just don't use that many desktop apps (or at least, not generic ones) so I don't have much of an issue on MacOS.

I frequently edit images in Preview on my Macs.

Yeah, you can resize and change format and that's about it. No drawing tools of any knid.
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