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mc32 wrote: post #69
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #40

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Current rumors point to the M6 generation of MBPs being a significant redesign and featuring an OLED touch panel screen. I don't understand the appeal, even a little bit. Reaching up to touch the screen is awkward, and every large touchpanel I've used has had to trade off antiglare coating effectiveness to accomodate oleophobic coating. For me, this would be an objective downgrade — the touch capability would never g…

Smudges are off-putting... but, there are times when it would be very convenient to be able to scroll or click on a touchscreen. There are times when presenting when a touchscreen would be preferred over a mouse or touchpad. It's not often, but they are nice to have. And, in regards to smudges, I mean, just don't use the touchscreen unless you have to and problem avoided. Antiglare can be a thing but that can be avoi…

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Post by dangus »

jsheard wrote: post #290
dangus wrote: post #285

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Is that really rumored? Sounds like kind of a weak rumor to me. The MacBook Air already exists. Apple already makes low cost versions of those, which are the previous models that they continue to manufacture.

https://www.macrumors.com/2025/06/30/new-macbook-with-a18-ch... Apparently there are references to it in macOS already.

Interesting, seems like an odd choice but maybe the smaller SoC package brings costs down. I wonder if Apple will finally be making the $500 laptop they always claimed they couldn’t make.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by podlp »

ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

Are there viable options? I run Asahi on my M1 Air and it performs quite well, but certain software like Android Studio has issues and hiccups. I’d love a decent ultrabook to replace my Air, but I hate Windows and got overwhelmed with reading Reddit forums to know which PCs will and won’t work with Linux. I don’t mind doing some setup, but I’d rather not be disappointed by non-functional or missing drivers for WiFi, Bluetooth, display, etc.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by dangus »

steve_adams_86 wrote: post #374
dangus wrote: post #283

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To be fair, for all you know they’re building something pretty crazy that justifies high resource consumption. Faster hardware doesn’t exclusively make developers lazy, it also opens up capability.

That's the thing. It's not a trivial project. I've already put a lot of time into optimizations and the returns are diminishing now.

In the age of AI it seems wild to blame developers for being “lazy” and needing more resources.

Like, if I were buying a new workstation right now, I’d want to be shelling out $2000 so that I could get something like a Ryzen AI 395+ with 128GB of fast RAM for local AI, or an equivalent Mac Studio.

That’s definitely not because I’m “lazy,” it’s because I can’t run a decent model on a raspberry pi

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by stakhanov »

wlesieutre wrote: post #431
stakhanov wrote: post #428

Is the Mac Pro pretty much no longer a thing, going forward? -- Not trying to be a smartass, just asking out of genuine curiosity, because I know next to nothing about the Apple lineup. But the naming ("M2" vs "M5") would seem to suggest it's 3 generations behind the latest?

Yes, it mostly exists for people who absolutely require PCI slots, except you can’t use AMD/Nvidia GPUs anymore so the utility of that is limited. Apple has their “Afterburner” card for ProRes media encoding, you could add even more ports, or there’s probably weird AV interface cards, but the vast majority of people can save a few thousand dollars and get a Mac Studio instead. Since the Mac Studio has more than 10 cu…

Thanks!

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by Cheer2171 »

ed_blackburn wrote: post #446

I keep asking, surely, I'm not the only potential customer: where's my ARM 64, Linux Mac mini equivalent? I'd settle for a laptop form if I must.

The Snapdragon X Elite has tons of laptop models and a few mini PCs like:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Lenovo-IdeaCentre-Mini-x-debut...

The Elite X2 is near release and supposedly on par with these M5 numbers:

https://www.notebookcheck.net/Apple-M5-9-Cores-Processor-Ben...

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by sgarland »

whatever1 wrote: post #233
criddell wrote: post #123

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I’ve found that the $1000 Mac laptop is worth about $500 after 3 years and the $500 laptop is worth $50. The price difference over time really isn’t that big and the Mac is going to have a better trackpad and display and longer battery life.

If your $1000 MacBook breaks after a year you need $1000 to repair it. A 500 laptop is probably more repairable and worst case you pay $500 to get a new one. Not to mention battery replacement etc. The expected total cost of ownership is very high for a Mac. It’s like owning a Mercedes. Maybe you can afford to buy one, but you cannot afford maintenance.

As a sibling comment said, what maintenance? The only problem I’ve ever had with any Mac was a bad keyboard on my M4 MBP, and that showed itself so quickly that even without AppleCare it would have been covered.

Between work and personal, I’ve had an Intel Air, 2x Intel Pros, M1 Air, 2x M3 Pros, and an M4 Pro. My wife has an M1 Air. My in-laws have an M3 iMac. My mom has… some version of an Apple Silicon laptop.

That is a decent amount of computers stretching over many years. The only maintenance required has been the aforementioned keyboard.

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Post by cdelsolar »

whynotminot wrote: post #448
ed_blackburn wrote: post #446

I keep asking, surely, I'm not the only potential customer: where's my ARM 64, Linux Mac mini equivalent? I'd settle for a laptop form if I must.

You're not the only one. I think there's 12.

There are dozens of us!

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Post by throw0101d »

balder1991 wrote: post #447
ako wrote: post #348

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It’s even worse: Parallels on MacBooks runs windows better than a dedicated windows laptop…

And if you don’t want to pay a subscription, VMWare also breaks no sweat since a long time ago, and it’s very polished at this point. I recently tried VirtualBox and it’s finally catching up, seems to work without any problems but I didn’t test it enough to find out the quirks.

VMWare's desktop hypervisors were announced to be free to use a little while ago:

* https://blogs.vmware.com/cloud-foundation/2024/11/11/vmware-...

You need to register an account/e-mail address for a free account:

* https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article?articleNumbe...

After which you can download VMware Fusion Pro and/or VMware Workstation Pro:

* https://knowledge.broadcom.com/external/article/368667/downl...

This seems to be a perpetual licence (?), so as long as it can run on the underlying OS you can continue to use it. Not sure if there's any 'phone home' functionality to track things (like has been seen with Oracle VirtualBox).

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