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14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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>For communication platforms (messengers) - the same kind that telecom companies are bound to, for example. So, like, maximum response time to outages? That kind of thing? Do you actually understand what you're asking for? Those sorts of regulations exist as consumer protections, because you're paying for a service, so a minimum standard of quality is required. You don't pay for WhatsApp, Telegram, Matrix, etc. If yo…

> Do you actually understand what you're asking for? Those sorts of regulations exist as consumer protections, because you're paying for a service ... Yes, I do understand what I am asking for - these should indeed be paid services (subsidised by the government through a common national communication infrastructure, to make it cheaper for ordinary people). This gives three benefits - (1) strong consumer rights (no gr…

>these should indeed be paid services

Okay... But they're not. I don't think it's possible to force someone to accept payment for something they want to give away for free.

>subsidised by the government through a common national communication infrastructure, to make it cheaper for ordinary people

So you want to make a free service paid, and then make it cheaper? Are you a politician? I can't imagine anyone else saying something like this. You could have said anything here. You could have said that the service should be paid by the state, which would legitimize intervention. Instead you went the preposterous, populist route.

>creates a more competitive market (right now, the biggest problem with "free" services are that you need a lot of money, for a very long period, to compete with them, thus giving rich, foreign corporates a natural advantage)

I have an XMPP server running at home, facing the Internet. I could tell my friends to install any XMPP client and hit me up there. Or we could use Tox. The problem is not investment, it's network effect and convenience.

>We do pay for it with our personal data

In other words, you don't pay for it.

>This data is also sold to (foreign) intelligence agencies thereby endangering a country's national security.

You always have the option not to use those services.

>If you speak publicly, to a mass audience, you need to care about what you say

Generally speaking, yes, I agree. I don't agree that the government should be regulating this. All it would do is harm small content creators.

>just as newspapers / news channels are obliged to do so. If you create content for a mass audience, you should abide by the content regulation that the television and movies do too.

Why, though? There's something about newspapers, TV, and cinema that legitimizes regulation. Newspapers are sold out in the open, so you can't print tits on the front cover. TV used to be sent over public airwaves, so it used a common resource. With cinema, there's a monetary exchange, so there's some expectation of standards.

With user-generated content, like with chat platforms, there's no such thing. When you watch a YouTube video, you're connecting to a server owned by a foreign company that stores a file created and uploaded probably by a foreign national and you're allowed to view that content for free. Other than your ISP ensuring a minimum QoS, what would legitimize the government stepping in in that scenario?

>A similar kind of setup can be enforced for social media reviewers too, ensuring platform owners and algorithm don't control the flow of info on it, and local people (and not foreigners) do.

What do you mean? You're just talking about worker's rights. What does that have to do journalism? You don't have an employer-employee relationship with either social media platforms or the users who post on them. Please, what kind of setup you have in mind, because I honestly have no idea what you're talking about.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Many news articles have failed to mention that the social media ban in Nepal was a direct response to a viral "nepo-baby vs. regular youth" online campaign, which ultimately backfired.

https://www.timesnownews.com/viral/why-nepo-kid-campaign-is-...

The government framed the ban as a measure against "unregistered social media" platforms. However, major companies like Facebook and YouTube have been registered and paying taxes for years. These companies did not agree to the government's overly controlling bill, which had not even been passed into law. The K.P. Oli government attempted to bypass a public vote and enforce it as a directive, threatening non-compliant apps with bans.

https://www.law-democracy.org/wp-content/uploads/2025/02/Nep...

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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That's a huge leap from directly instigating genocide that actually happened to "We must limit speech that advocates limiting the freedoms of people to live as independent and equal citizens." which is severe censorship of all sorts of political ideas, including ones which we already enact and most people agree with. There's a lot of widely-accepted government-enforced inequality (foreigners, prisoners, convicts, chi…

Wait what’s wrong with a restraining order? Do you think it should be legal for a person to stalk and mail threats to someone, go to their workplace to issue threats, phone them to issue threats, etc? I acknowledge stopping someone is censorship, but I also believe that it is important to both harbor free speech as an ideal in the ideal world, and also that it is important to acknowledge we don’t exist in the ideal w…

It's not the restraining order that's wrong, it's forbidding people from advocating for it!

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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That's a huge leap from directly instigating genocide that actually happened to "We must limit speech that advocates limiting the freedoms of people to live as independent and equal citizens." which is severe censorship of all sorts of political ideas, including ones which we already enact and most people agree with. There's a lot of widely-accepted government-enforced inequality (foreigners, prisoners, convicts, chi…

I don’t know man? You need moderation both ways. Yes to the First. But also yes to the cops arresting a kid who posts on social media that he’s gonna kill all his classmates tomorrow morning. Bonus points if the cops arrest him before he goes to school tomorrow. Couching threats of violence in political language shouldn’t change anything in that regard. (Well, it does these days. But it shouldn’t. That’s how you get…

People make vague and non-serious advocations for inequality and non-freedom all the time and it's not really that serious. For example saying on social media that some politician is a criminal and should be locked up. It has to be OK to discuss political ideas, even in the form of "I think we should..." (advocating) rather than "what if we did...?" (not advocating).

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Classic color revolution — China and India will be watching intently.

Classic removal of agency from real revolutions to avoid thinking critically about the real problems a country has, and instead blame a foreign boogeyman. A favorite tactic of authoritarian regimes and the tankies that love them.

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Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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As first generation out of Salazar's dictorship, our country now having a right majority with a Nazi party in the mix, makes me really sad. How short the memory of folks can be, especially with my parents and grand parents generations still around, but apparently their memories and experiences now fall into death hears. Maybe when they start getting visits from the eventually new state protection police, they will un…

> fall into death hears Maybe I'm missing a pun somewhere, but the phrase is 'fall onto deaf ears'!

Shitty autocorrect.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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Check your browser/OS, works fine here.

Rogue browser extensions are very rare these days. When people get redirected to malicious sites, it's almost always either due to the site having an infected WordPress installation or using a sketchy ad network.

>When people get redirected to malicious sites, it's almost always either due to the site having an infected WordPress installation or using a sketchy ad network.

That's often true. However, in this case when visiting the linked page[0] I am able to connect and view the article without issue.

Some details:

Location: USA

Browser: Firefox 128.14.0esr

Ublock Origin running with mostly default settings

Perhaps there's a location blocking issue and/or malware that targets certain locations/browser types?

[0] https://www.tribuneindia.com/news/world/massive-protests-in-...

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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He made that with the business he already had and some legal cryptocurrency investment based on capitalizing his fame. How on earth you call that "corruption"? Are you even aware of what the word means?

Political corruption entails at least one of: - Bribery - Embezzlement of public form - Nepotism, cronyism, or patronage You can accuse him of beign inmoral, but “corruption” has a very specific meaning.

He's taking bribes. That is what the crypto is for.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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I think its quite something that we all waste our time over divisions like left/right, capitalism/socialism, woke/not-woke when in practice; this is the only division that matters. Those who are trying to follow the rules and make the nation better, and those that are only active for their self-interest.

This is naive to the point of not being addressable.

I think you'll find thats only because you're incompatibly cringe. Once you sort that out, you'll find it scans ok.

Re: 14 Killed in anti-government protests in Nepal

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post #268

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Quite similar corruption is happening here in America! Donald trump made over $3.8B since getting into office this year, while tanking farming, jobs market, and foreign relations.

He made that with the business he already had and some legal cryptocurrency investment based on capitalizing his fame. How on earth you call that "corruption"? Are you even aware of what the word means?

I'm frankly amazed that not a small portion of the population seriously believe that he's not corrupt and is genuinely trying to do what's best for the country. Many believe he's making a personal financial sacrifice in doing so. And this despite the mountains of evidence. I mean the man isn't even trying to hide it.

I'm not trying to be snarky here, just curious and seriously trying to understand the thought process. Not sure if I'll get a response here, but if we just take one example of trump coin and dinner invite for those bought a lot of it. How do you justify that? And if Biden or Obama did the same thing, launch their coin which they have control over while being president. Invite people that they can directly benefit or harm with their position to buy and hosts a person dinner for those that bought a lot of it, would you be as forgiving?

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