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Telegram founder Pavel Durov arrested at French airport

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Post by foverzar »

Svoka wrote: post #308
gck1 wrote: post #258

Funny story - there were some protests in my country some months ago. We're a semi-autocratic country on the verge of becoming a dictatorship. During the protests, the government used masked 'civilians,' or what you'd call 'titushkis,' to beat up activists at their home addresses or elsewhere in public. We were also getting calls from fake numbers on our personal numbers with threats. A channel was created on Telegra…

Unfortunately telegram actively engaging with russian govenment. Since 2022 it became nothing but a propaganda tool itself.

> Since 2022 it became nothing but a propaganda tool itself.

How can it possibly be "a propaganda tool" when it has no feed, no algorithms, no suggestions or recommendations? You only get sources you've willingly subscribed to, nothing else.

This reads as such a cope.

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vwkd wrote: post #435

https://x.com/christogrozev/status/1827450631462048023 > I wonder what caught up with him first: the undisturbed sale of hard drugs vIa telegram, or the undisturbed recruitment of freelancers for GRU's terrorist attacks across Europe. Seems there could be some truth to the accusations.

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Post by gmueckl »

byyll wrote: post #404
gmueckl wrote: post #182

Earlier quoted context omitted.

I don't see a report button anywhere in the Android app. Somebody please correct me if I'm wrong.

Just press next to the message and click 'Report'. It shouldn't be hard to find.

It's not there for me. Curious.

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Post by n2d4 »

cft wrote: post #348
dang wrote: post #303

We changed the URL from https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/info-tf1-lci-le-... to an article in English. If there's a better article in English, we can change it again.

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Post by codedokode »

compiler1410 wrote: post #362
dang wrote: post #303

We changed the URL from https://www.tf1info.fr/justice-faits-divers/info-tf1-lci-le-... to an article in English. If there's a better article in English, we can change it again.

>Billionaire CEO named namedson This isn't Slayers X. But on a serious note if he's a billionaire then he can drop the whole monetization schtick. Telegram has become unusuable in the last few years. There's crypto scam ads everywhere.

Whenever I open Youtube via an EU proxy, I see "a crypto scam" video at the front page, the first one. The title is "+35 ETH generated last month by effectively using the contract bot for trading" and the account name is "Web3 developer", and the label says "Sponsored". The thumbnail displays a happy bearded man's face resembling that famous Youtuber who gives away money, a fire emoji and words "+35 ETH in July personal bot".

So you cannot really blame Telegram.

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Post by kspacewalk2 »

b112 wrote: post #390
nextos wrote: post #346

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Does this mean that according to EU, or France, E2E-encrypted platforms need to "cooperate" (provide backdoors)? Or does it refer to public channels only?

It means the post office is next, followed by the phone company.

The post office and the phone company refuse to cooperate with law enforcement and offer disposable phone numbers and means to move money without trace/attribution?

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Post by BLKNSLVR »

spwa4 wrote: post #320
a0123 wrote: post #297

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To be clear, the legislation in France and in the EU that is most likely behind this arrest is that companies have to at least try to do some moderation. There is an understanding that not everything can be moderated (obviously, the entire Internet would be banned otherwise) but there has to be a genuine attempt. Which every company does more or less. The fact that Telegram doesn't reach this extremely low, very low…

What keeps amazing me is that this is supposed to make children's lives better, by helping social services. Of course, such legislation only has any chance in hell of improving lives if the standard of living for children, the education, the ... IN social services is good. It is very easy to see this WILL put more children into such a situation, and that's about the only thing such legislation will definitely do. It…

They're building the penthouse suite with all the luxuries you could imagine, but the foundation is rotting away and, if anything, becoming more ignored rather than increasingly important.

It lays bare that their motivation is blanket surveillance for their own political ends and nothing to do with protecting children in the slightest.

Social Services are one of the most consistently underfunded and under-resources arms of government.

Australia has recently had to "increase the bar" at which mandatory reporting is required because the resources don't exist to even consider investigation of cases where the child's life isn't in immediate danger.

It's gross, but it seems politics around the world has found it's shared water level, and that level is happy with exploiting exploited children.

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Post by akira2501 »

I_am_uncreative wrote: post #438
T-A wrote: post #79

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You might be surprised to learn who's doing the pushing: https://www.wired.com/story/europes-moral-crusader-lays-down... https://www.statewatch.org/news/2024/july/police-should-have...

I'm not. The Swedish government is a lot like California's: it's a lot less progressive than it pretends to be.

It's not progressive. It's protectionist. The people they're protecting carry a lot of guilt, and so really like the "progressive" label, it's puts a really nice spin on their particular version of graft and corruption.
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