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If the devs/Google's intentions are truly limited largely to trying to prevent bots, then I hope they realise their folly.
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Firefox is helping you, Ticketmaster is evil.
Maybe so, but asking somebody to not go to shows of their favorite bands anymore as a form of protest against Ticketmaster and/or Google is a bit much. Unfortunately, some venues seem to be Ticketmaster only at this point. Sometimes you’ve got to choose your battles.
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Some Google services I regularly depend on (like YouTube and Google Meet) don't work as well on Firefox as they do on Chrome, in ways that actually matter. Besides that I think most websites work fine.
I believe google has intentionally made google maps near unusable in firefox. It's been consistently working worse and worse every year. I feel like about 8 years ago there used to be parity between them.
What you can do: - stop using Chrome - do not implement web DRM on your personal site - do not use providers like Cloudflare if they will support web DRM - maybe add a warning on your personal site for Chrome users Maybe something else?
One problem I find is that all that we do is in a bubble. I can convince a dozen like-minded people about the dangers and actions to take. However, the vast majority of the population is completely oblivious to all this and are negligently complicit in enabling bad behavior. This sort of things need to be discussed on the streets and in mainstream media (not tech media) for regular people to become aware. Remember th…
"IT people" live in a bubble and HN crowd even more so. There is nothing to stop this.
I feel like I have to repeat this, since so much is at stake here, where it is about the preservation of the web as we know it today, at the peril of having it turned into yet another walled garden: The only way around the dystopia this will lead to is to constantly and relentlessly shame and even harass all those involved in helping create it. The scolding in the issue tracker of that wretched "project" shall flow l…
There are many arguments against this but not many brought the implications for search engines. If websites implement this, it will effectively make building a web search engine impossible for new entrants. The current players can whitelist/attest their own clients while categorizing every other scraping clients as bots. If not for other reasons, I can't see how Google a search company can be allowed to push somethin…
Because antitrust has been dead for a while. Chrome is a tool to drive people to Google and Google ads and nothing more.
I will say, I did appreciate Microsoft having a browser engine with IE and Edge, even if the former was notoriously a pain, it gave competition in the space. Unfortunately, that's not the case anymore and everything is either Chrome (Blink), Firefox (Gecko), or Safari (WebKit). And it's pretty clear what Chrome has done once that have amassed a dominant market share.
I'm sure there are Googlers who think they're legitimately making the web a safer place, but I think the real reason is pretty clear if you take a birds eye view.
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isn't this good? banks can raise security while we can still use any browser to check hackers news! or this 3 cows story?
>> isn't this good? banks can raise security while we can still use any browser to check hackers news! Are you okay with buying a new computer running the operating system and browser someone else wants to access your bank's web site? You can still use you current computer and bowser to access HN.
Will this person's bank implement WEI in such a way that none of this person's devices (computer, phone) are supported and will this person not be willing or able to switch banks, only then buying a new computer comes into view. Without knowing anything about this person, assuming average, the chances for this must be low or the bank will have no happy customers left.
I fully agree with the underlying worries you and others in this thread have, but to extrapolate that without any nuance into a world where we all become privacy-less, ad consuming, eye tracked zombies on newly bought computers is not helping the case (in my view).
Can someone please explain what this actually is. Without the poetry.
And also, to switch back to Firefox
However.
Try opening any article from The Guardian on Firefox mobile. Even a good phone will start feeling sluggish and laggy and weird. An old phone will just go catatonic, get hot, and OOM the whole browser.
Surely this is partly The Guardian's fault. (Should it surprise me that the paper that poses "left" for the upper middle class is also incompatible with any but corporate software from Big Tech?)
But it's also definitely Firefox' fault too. Something is wrong with the implementation. If Chrome can render these sites smoothly, Firefox should be able to.
Firefox would only have an excuse if Google had some special APIs on Android, or were doing something to actively sabotage the Firefox experience. I'm not willing to get quite that paranoid yet.
There are some other browsers, but who the hell wrote them? How much of what you see in the app store is legitimate open source, and how much is OSS that some opportunist put their own trackers into? I'd love a good alternative, but I don't see a lot worth trusting.
So it's Firefox for most things, and Chrome when Firefox gets all slow and laggy. Or, Firefox for news articles, and Chrome for businesses' websites.
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Yoav Weiss is closing concern threads, calling them "spam." Ben Wiser ( https://benwiser.com ) turned off comments altogether.
Yoav Weiss has a blog post from 6 days ago on his website. https://blog.yoav.ws/ for a personal blog it has quite a lot of PR speak
https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=36857676
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