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Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Here are some of the screenshots [1] from Paler since Wednesday. Please let me know if you think Google is making a mistake or not. [1] https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/13473740754552299...

They could’ve easily organized on Signal. What would HN say if Google banned Signal?

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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So you are saying that they should be trying to change the political landscape to prevent things that might happen in the future? Gross.

I'm saying that if it's about illegal content, why make these moves now when there's been illegal content on Parler before today, as well as illegal content that existed on other apps in the past.

There is always a threshold. It isn’t one piece of illegal content that gets something banned outright. So we are just talking about where the line in the sand is drawn.

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Wow, is this the great purge? I don’t support certain people, but man I don’t think this is going to end well. This censorship just seems crazy to me.

I think it's wonderful. Push them to the edges where they belong. Let them make their own platform to spread lies and hate, it will make them easier to find. They are going to commit acts of hate and ignorance with or without general platforms, why let it reach the mainstream. Make those who drift towards it work for it. Google is well within their rights as a company to do it.

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It's all pretty complicated, but one obvious mitigating factor is the ends being pursued by each movement. Rioting aside, BLM is ultimately pushing for justice and equality. There's also a question of blame - many would argue that most of the BLM rioting was provoked by a disproportionate police response. This movement, on the other hand, is quite transparently rooted in white supremacy, and had an explicit goal of t…

BLM was a badly organized movement. I support the cause, not the way they're sending the message. Study Gandhi, MLK, John Lewis, Mandela - I understand BLM is a decentralized movement, but that's the problem. There is no leader and leadership. It has no coherency. It's dividing the society even more instead of pulling the entire populace behind it. Social movement has a singular goal - to change the minds of people t…

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You realise that it’s possible for entities outside of the government to censor things, right? That word isn’t only applicable to state actions, and nor should it be.

Real censorship means that the government prosecutes you for speech, no matter where or how or to whom are you saying it. That was happening in parts of Europe from 1945 to 1990. This what is happening in USA right now is nowhere near that. It's just free market. If you're banned from a certain platform you can reach your audience in another way. No one is censoring your speech. It's just a certain company not wantin…

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I'm curious why so many Democrats were allowed to encourage the BLM riots (more than 25 dead, $2 billion in property damage) without so much as a peep from Google, Twitter, Facebook or any other tech giant. Kamala Harris said "they should not stop" and helped with a bail fund for the people who were involved with them. I think protest is a fundamental requirement of democracy, and as Chris Cuomo himself reminded us:…

The vast majority of BLM protests were peaceful. > ...93 percent of the protests associated with BLM were entirely peaceful... Yet our government treats left-wing protests and right-wing protests quite differently. > Between May 1 and November 28, 2020, authorities were more than twice as likely to attempt to break up and disperse a left-wing protest than a right-wing one. And in those situations when law enforcement…

this comment being downvoted really reveals the character of the discussion here.

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So do we need a DMCA type thing for courts to file injunctions against illegal content? What is the solution? The fact is any moderation will be subjective and imperfect. How can making more complicated subjective rules help at all?

It is always subjective, the entity in power get to decide the rule, in this case google is the entity in power. Its not enough to have rule that says 'illegal content not allowed', in the case of play store it has to be 'illegal content (according to google) not allowed'

Surely there must be a way to let the courts determine legality in every single controversial case. It’s just an optimization problem.

We sent fourteen people to walk around on the moon, twelve of them made it, and all of them made it back.

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The threats are no longer hypothetical (or FUD), we've seen what the mislead masses can and will do

The threats haven’t been hypothetical all year. Dozens have died, 100s maimed, $2 billion in property damage. Kamala Harris said, > "They're not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop," she added. "They're not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they're not gonna stop after Election Day." > "Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and…

I won't bother with your bizarre argument, but you are flagrantly taking Harris' words out of context.

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/factcheck/2020/08/13/fac...

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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Here are some of the screenshots [1] from Paler since Wednesday. Please let me know if you think Google is making a mistake or not. [1] https://twitter.com/YourAnonCentral/status/13473740754552299...

Actual threats of violence:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1eQzLcO5qhY

Re: Google suspending Parler from the Google Play store

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If you must have a native mobile app, you can download it from alternative stores. Or Parlour can just distribute as a web app. Businesses don’t have any right to force other businesses to carry their products.

This is a big point. I feel it’s acceptable for google to remove whatever they want because android allows you to install the apk directly. IMO apple should either be forced to allow side loading apps or to accept everything within reason to the App Store.

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