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But they can't ban the website and they can't stop sideloading, can they?

Depends who provides hosting for the site, and whether they can be convinced to stop providing that service...

(And with locked-down mobile platforms, the platform owners could theoretically start enforcing a site blacklist of some kind at an OS level if they really wanted to)

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Aren't these conservative principles? Like Gov shouldn't have any business in private company's affairs?

Partially, regulation is one thing but being able to kick someone out of your establishment is also part of the law that has been upheld by the Supreme Court and in the constitution. There are hundreds, if not thousands, of communication platforms on the Internet. If Twitter was the only communication platform, then I would be very upset about this decision. There are some companies that I do not think should be allo…

Ok, so ISP's shouldn't ban people but they're allowed to be monopolies in the first place!? Internet and critical infrastructure is not considered utilities, let private enterprise take care of the most important connection to the outside world - the internet. What could go wrong!?

Note clearly - I am not condoning ISPs banning people. I am highlighting the hypocracy in a lot of contemporary conservative principles. It's not the Lincoln party we know of.

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It’s pretty coincidental that all of these tech companies are having epiphanies simultaneously now that Democrats will control the house/senate/and presidency. The interesting question is whether they are doing it out fear of anti trust action from Democrats or weren’t doing it for the last four years out of fear of Republicans.

The threats are no longer hypothetical (or FUD), we've seen what the mislead masses can and will do

The threats haven’t been hypothetical all year. Dozens have died, 100s maimed, $2 billion in property damage.

Kamala Harris said,

> "They're not gonna stop, and everyone beware, because they're not gonna stop," she added. "They're not gonna stop before Election Day in November, and they're not gonna stop after Election Day."

> "Everyone should take note of that, on both levels, that they're not going to let up — and they should not. And we should not," she concluded.

I believe neither group are terrorists, but one side cannot be labeled a terrorist without implicating the other under the exact same label.

In Portland, in Seattle, in D.C.

The only difference is the scale of damage and death, which is orders of magnitude higher on one side.

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Well this is actually somewhat disturbing, but if you think of social media corporations as organisms that are trying to further their own self-interest it does make sense.

In order to protect and preserve their monopolies and undue influence over others, it seems reasonable that they would suffocate and kill any competitors that would threaten their survival. This includes silencing their political rivals in addition to other corporate structures and platforms.

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You realise that it’s possible for entities outside of the government to censor things, right? That word isn’t only applicable to state actions, and nor should it be.

It's legal for entities outside the government to censor things. IANAL so if I'm wrong let me know. But my understanding is that censorship is perfectly fine for any company.

I find undesirable to buy a phone where a company can arbitrarily decide what I am and am not allowed to run on my device. Because economies of scale make things cheaper if many people want them and because I generally believe in fighting the power of arbitrary or harmful corporate decisions, I try to convince others of the importance of this "feature" (really it's more of a lack of an anti-feature).

Luckily you can still sideload apps on Android. The day they remove that feature is the day I take the time to figure out how to use an alternate OS.

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The threats are no longer hypothetical (or FUD), we've seen what the mislead masses can and will do

In Portland, too, right?

That's whataboutism and conflation. It's possible to believe that BLM-related vandalism and anarchism is bad and that an attack on congress is bad.

But... sorry, a direct attack on a joint session of congress that forces the lawmakers and VP to be evacuated is WORSE than what happened in Portland.

This country can tolerate another bunch of fires and broken statues outside the Portland Federal Courthouse. I don't think anyone serious can imaging the idea of congress being sacked again.

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It's not censorship, it's free market. These are private companies.

Aren't these conservative principles? Like Gov shouldn't have any business in private company's affairs?

Free market principles, at least. But regardless of the political orientation of the view, it always seems to last only as long as they happen to agree with the political implications of the company's decisions

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Now this makes the “cops let them in” conspiracy super interesting. The timing is pretty convenient!

Why did they do it? There's video footage showing cops literally pulling back the barricades and waving people in. I don't understand why they did that, and surely their not doing that would have prevented the subsequent violence?

Another explanation is that it is “the blue” getting back at the left: https://www.wbez.org/amp/stories/chicago-police-union-presid...

Or, maybe the CIA just manipulated the blue into doing this! Conspiracy inception!

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It's almost like there was some sort of catalyst event that occurred very recently that would provoke such a response. /s

That’s an excuse, not the reason. Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence. Mass texts, email chains, WhatsApp, signal, 4chan boards, etc are all there.

>>Blocking parler does jack shit in stopping people’s ability to coordinate violence.

It definitely helps. Just because people can coordinate using other mediums is not an argument against making it more difficult for them.

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