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Sorry, you are missing the point. A liquid secondary market is what enables the company to go public in the first place. There would be no initial sale of stock without it at all. In addition, liquid secondary market enables the company to incentivize its employees and undertake other financing activities, as well as gives value to its remaining treasury stock.
> A liquid secondary market is what enables the company to go public in the first place. Dividends enable the company to go public. The secondary market makes the stock liquid, which is convenient but not mandatory.
The Shock of Sweden's Housing Market Is Hitting the Country's Currency
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Direct reserve emission by the central bank. In practice, the central bank can just give some reserve to the governement account.
..or they can give it directly to people. There is an initiative for Europe that wants exactly that, Quantitive Easing for People. I love the idea and am sure it would do more for the economy than just pushing banks to lend more money.
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It's sort of telling how many prominent politicians in the UK make much of their income off of housing. Boris Johnson, George Osbourne, and David Cameron all come to mind - all who were in prime places to improve the situation, but it was against their best interests.
I don’t think you can really blame 3 conservative politicians for the home price boom in most western countries over the past 20 years! They weren’t even in power for a major part of the boom in the UK (Labour were in power from 1997-2010). The most recent part of the increase has come from the slashing of interest rates to rock bottom following the global financial crisis and quantative easing, neither of which is t…
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This is not correct according to the 2 CA tax accountants I just spoke in the last 2 weeks. I literally am researching this exact situation right now. https://www.irs.gov/taxtopics/tc701 Where's your source?
I'm looking at the exact same source you are. What part of what I said is not correct, exactly? The capital gains are $1 million. $500k of it is excluded (assuming you're married filing jointly). The rest gets taxed. If you think that's incorrect, what do _you_ think happens with taxes when selling a home for $2 million that was bought for $1 million?
> I said = 2017 - Buy new house for $1M
> you said = But it might be (for the "buy new house") $1.6 million, not $1 million, in your example...
> I said = so they can still afford it.
> you said = You don't get to keep the whole $2M. That's the point.
So, let's do this again.
1. Sell house for $2M
2. Buy house for $1.6M as you suggested
3. Congrats you now have $1.6M in illiquid assets and $400k in liquid assets (cash)
Note - I recognize that my original example was buy at $1M and sell for $2M, where you are correct you're not taxed on the first $500k and the remaining $500k is taxed at capital gains. I also recognize that this whole scenario is purely illustrative and doesn't take into acount all of the transation fees.
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I'm kind of expecting to see a chain reaction happening next.. - Housing falls - Investors sell - Stock drops - SEK value drops (We are here) - Import prices goes up - Goods prices goes up - Less people are wiling to buy goods due to risk - Wages go down - People are let go - Fewer people are willing to buy goods - and so on..
Your chain breaks at "less people willing to buy goods due to risk". SEK going down will push the costs of imports up. It will also make Swedish exports more competitive. Imports being more costly will cause Swedish consumers to substitute imported goods with local alternatives. The net will be that wages will go up and unemployment will go down . This is good. But the price of goods will become dear to the Swedish c…
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> You wouldn't raise an eyebrow, or have any negative reaction to someone making $400k / year bitterly complaining that they have to pay taxes on it? I don't know anyone who wouldn't think that was obnoxious. Where are these bitter complaints? He commented to say that rising housing prices weren't good for him. He explained why. That isn't a complaint. He didn't say "I deserve this money from my rising house price!".…
>What was facile or deceptive about what he said? He's absolutely correct. First, he withheld the amount of capital gains, so everyone who initially responded naturally assumed it was under $500k, which is true of 99.9% of transactions. That was very misleading information to omit. Secondly, he complained about broker fees, but it isn't required to sell a house using a broker by any stretch. Just do FSBO if you think…
There's nothing misleading about that. He didn't mislead you. You misled you.
> Pretending that he and his wife are "trapped" in his house and "can't afford to sell" makes it sound like a horrific and dire situation. Which is completely misleading, he and his wife are quite wealthy and could do anything they wanted. They are pretty much the opposite of "trapped."
You don't really understand money, it seems like. The fact that you have equity in the home you live in doesn't mean you can "do anything you want". I already explained why this is so.
> They bought their house for something like $600k and now it's probably worth $1.3M. They pay 20% taxes on the $200k, so $40k and they lose 3% if they use a broker. That's another $40k, so $80k total. Let's make it an even $100k. So they have $1.2M to throw around, subtract $500k to pay off the existing mortgage, that's $700k free and clear. $700k is a hell of a down-payment, even in the ritziest areas of Marin. Buy whatever you want.
700k is indeed a great down payment. But you have no idea what their income stream is like. If they aren't making a large income, they won't be able to afford their mortgage payments if they need to buy a house in an expensive area like SF. What he means by 'trapped' is that they have theoretically made all this money, but the money is of no actual use to them. And he is completely correct.
> I own a restaurant in norcal and have an employee whose room share / rental house burned in the recent fires. He goes to SRJC, doesn't have any family in the area, had no rental insurance, makes $12 an hour and no savings. THAT's a dire situation, and considering I know people in situations like that, OP's framing of his (extremely cushy) situation as "I can't afford X!" is pretty disgusting to me.
Gee, it does indeed sound dire. Maybe you should pay your employees more rather than yelling at people on the internet for being insensitive about money? Seems you're in a position to actually do something about that situation. But you won't. And there's a very good reason you won't: because it's bad business. The economics don't make sense for you to do that. Just like the economics of the OP's situation don't make him wealthy. Absolute values are irrelevant, it's the equilibrium that matters.
And secondly, making silly statements like "THATS NOT DIRE THIS IS DIRE" is absurd. Almost everyone posting here lives in a first world country. There are infinitely 'more dire' situations out there than any of us are in, and playing this childish 'no true scotsman' game is a waste of time.