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Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by logfromblammo »

paulddraper wrote: post #290
habitue wrote: post #268

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Can we drop the whole "need to eat" language when talking about software development? We're talking about people with abundant opportunity to make tons of money. Tugging on the heartstrings with "they need to eat" or "feed their families" is preposterously over the top rhetoric.

I can't speak for you, but my family needs to eat. Can I choose my opportunities? To some extent.

I was going to say something clever and snarky here, but then I realized that I am an "at will" employee for a single company that could ruin me financially with one arbitrary decision, and they would have no obligation whatsoever to justify it to me in any way.

At least Apple only takes ~1/3 of the value of the work you put into in the App Store.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by beamatronic »

erikpukinskis wrote: post #153
davesque wrote: post #6

Kinda puts it in perspective how weird it is that companies have so much control over how software is distributed and sold these days. This would never have happened a decade ago.

A decade ago there were many more, much higher hurdles to software distribution. This developer's woes are nothing compared to the challenges to getting shrink-wrapped software in boxes, getting people to download and install an executable, or god forbid getting a mobile app onto one of the mobile carrier's app stores,

Not on Palm OS. Check out the old Treo phones. Touch screen, camera, SD slot, full keyboard, free and open API for app development.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by edoceo »

dothis9 wrote: post #261
edoceo wrote: post #108

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Without getting too into it, they thought some data visible in the App was in violation of US drug law (Schedule 1) Yet other, semi-related consumer apps have this data. In fact other apps in the store assist with the purchase/sale of these regulated items. A clear violation of Apple policy. I'm not so mad about being blocked. I'm really mad about the inconsistent/random application of said policy.

Translation: edoceo built an app to help marijuana stores sell weed and keep track of weed and implement controls on the amount of weed purchased and where it came from and where it went. Other apps either do the same thing or are less obvious about what their functionality is for, and Apple ignores it or is unaware or turns a blind eye. edoceo thought an app which documents compliance with State law (and documents n…

This is a correct summary.

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by mokus »

okket wrote: post #446

Update: Apple contacted me and told me they found evidence of App Store review manipulation. This is something I’ve never done. Apple’s decision is final and can’t be appealed.

So all it takes to destroy someone's iOS app business is to hire a shady marketer to shill for them?

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Post by LaSombra »

abeyer wrote: post #246
stuaxo wrote: post #102

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This is the first time I've heard of this (not a mac user but am a developer). At least as this is software for developers, I reckon most won't mind buying it outside the appstore, it sounds really useful.

If you're not on mac, there's Zeal[1], that shows Dash doc sets on win & linux. [1] https://zealdocs.org

Even if you are, https://github.com/zealdocs/zeal/wiki/Build-Instructions-for....

It works quite well for me.

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Post by dandare »

brokentone wrote: post #273
sithadmin wrote: post #266

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>It should be prohibited for companies to halt service someone without providing a reasonable explanation. By US standards, that would require an absurd level of legislative and/or judicial overreach. I don't think I'd even want to do business in that kind of regulatory climate.

This is very true. However, I wonder if we as engineers and the like can provide a better TLDR ratings guide for marketplaces. Kinda like https://tosdr.org/ or a BBB that works... Then we as engineers refuse to build apps for marketplaces below some kind of score. Or does it even matter if the Apple App store is the only marketplace of its kind?

On a related note, as a small startup I am looking for some TOS generator that I - the single developer - could also understand and that will be clear and fair to my users. Any advice?

Re: Apple Has Removed Dash from the App Store

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Post by dandare »

dandare wrote: post #234

I am annoyed by something else: today Apple stepped on the wrong toe, the community will cry foul and someone from Apple who reads HN will rush to salvage the situation. We have seen this pattern before (usually but not exclusively with Apple). But what about the thousands of small and nameless developers that were crushed by some script bug or killed by operator misclick? Who will ever help them?

On a related note, as a small startup I am looking for some TOS generator that I - the single developer - could also understand and that will be clear and fair to my users. Any advice?

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Post by Aaronn »

Phil Schiller's response (from this 9to5Mac article https://9to5mac.com/2016/10/05/apple-inexplicably-terminates...):

"Hi Matthew,

Thanks for your email about this app.

I did look into this situation when I read about it today. I am told this app was removed due to repeated fraudulent activity.

We often terminate developer accounts for ratings and review fraud, including actions designed to hurt other developers. This is a responsibility that we take very seriously, on behalf of all of our customers and developers.

I hope that you understand the importance of protecting the App Store from repeated fraudulent activity.

Thank you,

Phil"

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Post by CamperBob2 »

KirinDave wrote: post #444
CamperBob2 wrote: post #397

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iOS developers are not customers. $100/year says you're wrong.

I certainly hope people are moving off that abusive platform. But that doesn't make the relationship a customer relationship.

If I pay you money, I'm your customer. It really is that simple.
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