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Off-topic: we (the human species) have built an AI that can master the game of Go, but we don't yet have the intelligence to publish charts correctly on the web. That blur of a JPG is half a megabyte!
It didn't master anything. What the DeepMind team did was make an "AI" which means it can _imitate_ (to a certain degree) of "playing go".
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> a number of moves that made absolutely no sense at all even to way lower level players. Another possibility is that it was looking way deeper than anybody, and there was a 1% chance or turning the whole game around with those seemingly bad moves. But Lee Sedol blocked that deep move in a way nobody was able to see.
No. That is not what happened. They were genuinely bad moves.
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#454So where can we see this "move 78" that everyone is talking about, without having to go through the entire match counting?
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You are relying too much on the concept of a generalized mental capacity, which many researchers (maybe even most) would say does not exist. You seem to be assuming that grandmasters are just amazingly smart and they happen to apply those smarts to one particular skill, but what's closer to the truth is that they happen to be particularly amazing at that one skill, in a way that doesn't really correlate strongly with…
If you took the people who would have grown up to be chess grandmasters, intercepted them just before they started spending significant amounts of time studying chess, and had them instead spend all that time studying programming or physics or something, how do you think they would rank up? You seem to be arguing against the idea, "A chess grandmaster is a genius and therefore can walk into Google and immediately sta…
While not exactly what you wrote, people do think that someone is a genius at some subject can become a genius at another area with less work than it took for someone in either field to originally become a genius at that field, especially society groups the areas together (so sports star becoming master programmer is far less likely to be believed than chess master becoming master programmer).
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No. That is not what happened. They were genuinely bad moves.
You don't have the authority to make that call unless you intimately understand how it AlphaGo works. Please stop.
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#458In the post-game press conference I think Lee Sedol said something like "Before the matches I was thinking the result would be 5-0 or 4-1 in my favor, but then I lost 3 straight... I would not exchange this win for anything in the world." Demis Hassabis said of Lee Sedol: "Incredible fighting spirit after 3 defeats" I can definitely relate to what Lee Sedol might be feeling. Very happy for both sides. The fact that p…
I've read some articles in Korean press that suggested AlphaGo team picked Lee as their match and not Ke Jie (currently #1 ranked, 19 years young) because there's a lot more public records of Lee's plays over his much longer pro career (nearly 20 years now). Thus more material for AlphaGo to train with and against. So it's not totally arrogant of Ke Jie to suggest he could beat AlphaGo. AlphaGo has not much 'experien…
So Lee's games are sort of a drop in a bucket as far the performance of the AI goes.
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I know the formatting system. My question is why the users are formatting their text (e.g. with 4 places leading each line) *suc that HN renders it as monospace, which then forces a sideways scroll on mobile and small screens. That seems to make it harder to read for some with no corresponding upside.
Oh. Well, I think they just don't realize that HN will monospace it. I agree with you, it's annoying.
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