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Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Post by ColdStream »

xg15 wrote: post #395
jeroenhd wrote: post #93

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Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to that either. If we're protecting kids, we should also protect the old and feeble. Old people, people with developmental handicaps, you name it: they're being exposed to a world that can and will abuse you if you have any faith in humanity left and don't have the technical skills to identify things like fake domains and scam sites. For some reason we're making sure no 12 year old can…

Waiting for the first 90 year old president...

Well Donny T is working on it but as the saying goes, if you want the gods to laugh - tell them your plans.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Post by ColdStream »

kova12 wrote: post #382
jeroenhd wrote: post #93

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Honestly, I wouldn't be opposed to that either. If we're protecting kids, we should also protect the old and feeble. Old people, people with developmental handicaps, you name it: they're being exposed to a world that can and will abuse you if you have any faith in humanity left and don't have the technical skills to identify things like fake domains and scam sites. For some reason we're making sure no 12 year old can…

It would be hilarious when some services become unavailable to 55+. The whole age check scam will dissolve in a heartbeat

Maybe we should push that then, don't go around the problem but head face first into it. Force the bottom of the bucket to blow out.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Post by __MatrixMan__ »

inigyou wrote: post #29
sunaookami wrote: post #27

This coordinated worldwide effort at the same time is very creepy.

It just means politicians read the news.

You mean the news that the halls of power are full of pedophiles? And then they all thought at once:

> I know what will help, more metadata about chlidren.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Post by ColdStream »

shrubby wrote: post #43
xinayder wrote: post #11

Can't we build a gateway in the internet that detects if someone is a influential CEO or something and just bar access to the internet?

I was just saying yesterday that we (Finland) could take the bullet and create a luxury resort for all the zillionaires in the world. Connect them with each other and populate their air-gapped "Internet" with like-minded authoritarian AI-bots and create special news like Don and Vladimir are being fed to keep them from tantrums. A win win for everyone! Ooh, and mental health services. Plenty of mental health services…

Zillionaire Matrix, would make a good comedy or horror film.

Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Post by autoexec »

Gander5739 wrote: post #381
autoexec wrote: post #374

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There's nothing that can't be worked around or compromised in some way. Even the face scans and ID scans being used today are being circumvented. In the end we do need parents to parent, but websites should help. The easiest way would be for websites to send an HTTP header to the client so that censorware can know to block or allow it accordingly.

> The easiest way would be for websites to send an HTTP header to the client so that censorware can know to block or allow it accordingly. That sounds very similar to the suggestion of the original commenter, that you responded to with >> That just entertains the false justification for what is ultimately about surveillance and control.

I assumed that when he asked "What might those be?" he was talking about privacy preserving ways to address that same false justification. I'm not sure how you took it some other way.

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Post by autoexec »

bigstrat2003 wrote: post #409
autoexec wrote: post #345

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> The only acceptable solution would be for apps and websites to simply include a recommended age. Allowing parents to configure their children’s devices to block services that require users to be older than the specified age or that do not provide an age rating. That just entertains the false justification for what is ultimately about surveillance and control. There are privacy preserving alternatives to accounts an…

If indeed the push for age verification is being done under false pretenses as you suggest, then one should propose solutions that accomplish the stated goals while preserving privacy. Either the solutions will be accepted, or the people advancing false pretenses will be forced to come up with new false pretenses, which will weaken their arguments. Either way is a win.

It's been done. Here are a couple of examples:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Internet_Content_Rating_Associ...

https://www.rtalabel.org/page.php?content=howtofaq

Use of those kinds of headers needs to be voluntary for websites, which means that censorware has to block any site that doesn't return the header, not just those sites where the value of that header indicates adult content. That will encourage websites to support the header or risk being auto-blocked by any censorware in use, but that's a problem for the RTA header since it only indicates adult content.

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Post by DANmode »

2OEH8eoCRo0 wrote: post #319
DANmode wrote: post #316

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> It’s also pretty obvious that saying “parent should take responsibility” is also not working. So punish those people. Stop letting them neglect the responsibility a parent innately has to their child and to the rest of us.

Stop punishing me by asking for ID when I buy alcohol!

If you are an elderly person, this position becomes wildly reasonable.

No youths are spoofing being 75 at the corner store.

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Post by DANmode »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #341
DANmode wrote: post #335

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We’re still pretending the Bilderberg Meeting (and similar stuff) don’t exist, and don’t assist in orchestrating big, cross-border paradigm shifts like this?

If it just takes a few hundred rich people meeting up a few times a year to manipulate the world economy of billions, that says a lot about the world to begin with.

Most of the cooperation required to manipulate markets and legislation is implicit, incentives-based, requiring little or no recordable coordination.

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Post by MichaelZuo »

johnnyanmac wrote: post #372
MichaelZuo wrote: post #363

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This doesn’t make sense? How does “freedom” relate to an electrical utility deciding whether to cut service?

"Freemdom" is accepting that mostly marginalized people get their power cut because they are marginalized. Your reaction to that is to shrug and move on instead of investigating the systems below that keep the marginalized as so. Even if we take marginalization out of it, this is the same kind of system that let's Healthcare recklessly utilize AI Systems to automatically reject patients' care, with a Herculean effort…

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Re: Google will expand age checks on Android worldwide till the end of the year

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Post by autoexec »

codedokode wrote: post #418
autoexec wrote: post #374

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There's nothing that can't be worked around or compromised in some way. Even the face scans and ID scans being used today are being circumvented. In the end we do need parents to parent, but websites should help. The easiest way would be for websites to send an HTTP header to the client so that censorware can know to block or allow it accordingly.

The header must confirm that site is age-appropriate. No header should be interpreted as "adults only". This is the safest option, and it doesn't require 99% of webmasters to do anything which is in my opinion better than any other proposal.

Exactly. That's the problem I have with the "restricted to adults" header. Ideally the header wouldn't have a "safe for kids" value either because what one parents feels is safe will be very different from what another parent would find appropriate. I think The Internet Content Rating Association had the right idea were the header would show if a site contained specific types of content or not and it was up to parents to decide how much to censor.
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