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Post by jamesfmilne »

alibarber wrote: post #355
regexorcist wrote: post #348

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Indeed, and I kinda miss it. My first couple IT jobs were right in Central London and we would all religiously meet at the pub after work, along with hundreds from other companies of all kinds. The banter was glorious.

Same - in Soho on a nice (or even not that nice) Friday (or Monday, or Thursday) the whole place would just be one big open air pub. You'd meet so many great people - the atmosphere was just wonderful. Then COVID came around and I also moved to Finland where that sort of thing is just unheard of.

Yeah, I worked in Soho for about 14 years and most Thursdays were out at the Pillars of Hercules or Dog & Duck. Fridays are for the out-of-towners.

The company has moved to Bermondsey now, and to be fair the drinks-after-work culture seems to still going fairly strong around this part of town.

The biggest spanner in the works has been my cohort all having kids and not having the spare time to socialise after work.

Definitely miss all that. My liver & pancreas don't miss it though, so it's probably for the best.

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Post by thmsths »

ncphillips wrote: post #304
pif wrote: post #276

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> classic problem of "Engineering isn't shipping features fast enough" and "Sales is selling features before even consulting with engineering" That's not a problem, in the sense that there was never any possible debate: if I make a promise on your behalf, I am a di*k.

It’s a mix. Partially a systems problem. We used to have that problem, then we changed the way work is selected. Sales is part of the process, so they’re forced to see all the things we could build and help decide which ones were saying no to. They still promise things occasionally but they hedge a lot more now. And our teams delivery rate has increased dramatically because we’re not getting yanked around all the tim…

This sounds like a successful implementation of the conjoined triangles of success :)

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Post by Ekaros »

ksenzee wrote: post #185
8f2ab37a-ed6c wrote: post #112

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Please don't bring your whole self to work, the rest of us don't need that from you. Be polite, congenial and professional. You have the rest of your day to let it rip however you'd like.

Maybe not your whole self, but I'd like the people I work with to feel safe talking about their family, their disabilities, their religion, their culture or subculture, the things they love doing, whatever makes them human.

Some religions and cultures are more accepted than others. I don't think that works for less accepted groups. People are very intolerant in general. And they are especially not intolerant of those who are intolerant...

Silence is always the preferable choice in those matters.

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Post by GJim »

not-kinsale-joe wrote: post #279
ionwake wrote: post #271

I know some of the younger folk may not realise reality is stranger than fiction, but I too have been on a "work mandated drink alchohol bus" where I remember even though I was young, I was terrified the whole time wondering why we were being forced to drink infront of C suite; forced on a hell ride through the black country ( Thats a region in England). One might think it was naive and odd for me as a young autistic…

UK had the most unhinged work drinking culture I had ever seen.

> UK had the most unhinged work drinking culture I had ever seen

I prefer the term 'enlightened'.

Here in Blighty, if somebody got rat-arsed at an office party, photocopied their arse and puked in the Yucca plant, they would be regarded as an absolute legend (providing they didn't make a habit of it).

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Post by GJim »

noir_lord wrote: post #377
rwmj wrote: post #302

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It was pretty mad in the 90s, but I don't recall anyone ever being forced into it at companies I worked for. A company mandated "alcohol bus" sounds ridiculous then and now.

> A company mandated "alcohol bus" sounds ridiculous then and now. Sounds like a law suit waiting to happen.

We're not American!

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Post by xquce »

reactordev wrote: post #333
kakacik wrote: post #309

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This is corporate default. Don't stick your head too much, don't make too much noise, vent off someplace else ie via some cool sports. Doesn't matter how righteous, how correct and good for the company, it will very easily back fire you. Its kafquesque catch-22 all over the place, be a good boy and accept the paycheck with crap it comes along. Or move, but its not always greener on the next site.

There are no more patches of green grass left.

Just to add a followup to my story. If you can't find it, find people and create it!

What I did was to build my own grass field(started company with my team) and it has been fucking great. We made a better product and made enough of a name of ourselves, that while I lost the battle that time with the former leadership, I fought long enough to see them all lose their jobs.

As a CEO myself now, I choose not to have an HR rep and try to do better for my people.

Also this is in EU so as a warning to others,like me then, who thought HR in the US could do this but not here.

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Post by gib444 »

oliwarner wrote: post #389
psd1 wrote: post #319

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Amen. I only got my first job in tech because i put away 6 pints in the pub after the interview. We conducted interviews after lunch, for this exact purpose. I saw good candidates interview but decline the pub afterwards - they did not get offers. That company had at least two pub sessions a week, typically running to six rounds or more. We hit our medically-recommended maximum weekly intake by Tuesday; Fridays were…

> good candidates interview but decline the pub afterwards - they did not get offers That's one hell of a lawsuit you're opening yourself up to there. People who don't drink have significant overlap with protected classes.

It's particularly difficult to bring a suit against a company for their hiring and firing practices due to difficulty in acquiring solid proof.

The excuse is always culture fit, if that even gets recorded anywhere...

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Post by oliwarner »

asdfasvea wrote: post #415
oliwarner wrote: post #389

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> good candidates interview but decline the pub afterwards - they did not get offers That's one hell of a lawsuit you're opening yourself up to there. People who don't drink have significant overlap with protected classes.

Not trying to go ad hominem, but that's a very ignorant statement. 1. Which ones? I used to be able to stereotype with the best of them, but I cant quickly come up with any protected class that is assigned as teetotalers. 2. Saying you're not hiring someone because they don't drink is a perfectly valid reason for not hiring someone, even if it's a cover for not hiring them because of protected class membership. The l…

Saying they won't get the job if they don't come out for drinks excludes (on characteristic) recovering alcoholics, pregnant women, and about a quarter of the world's population on religious grounds.

And just more broadly, some people have lives, family where they can't just be expected out on the piss in the afternoon.

Admitting it on forum is the in. Just like admitting you've been working while up on ket.

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Post by GJim »

Noumenon72 wrote: post #21
hmokiguess wrote: post #15

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what is splitting the G? I'm not a big drinker

According to ChatGPT it's the skill of taking exactly one sip such that when you put the Guiness glass down the new beer level ends up precisely through the horizontal middle of the "G". According to LadBible the actual trick was drinking a pint of Guinness while standing on his head. https://www.ladbible.com/entertainment/netflix/netflix-execu...

> According to ChatGPT

Please don't do this. Quote a source, not an LLM that bullshits.

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Post by s1artibartfast »

vdomi wrote: post #259
s1artibartfast wrote: post #223

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Genuine question. Can you tell me why people love saying this so much?

HR stands for Human Resources, as in how the company manages ones of its resources, the humans. Is this not obvious at all?

I agree. If it is so obvious, why do people like saying it?

Do they also go around repeating the sky is blue?

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