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Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

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Post by parasti »

tudelo wrote: post #396
plaguuuuuu wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI mandate is one of the best things that's happened to me. It's the easiest metric to game in the world. At one point my boss asked why my AI usage was lower than other team members. I instantly knew what to do. Every session is now run at ultracode effort. My automated PR review bot averages like $80 in usage per PR review.

It is extremely easy to burn tokens if that is required. Explore this codebase. Team x wants y feature, research and generate a full plan. What does feature x in codebase y actually mean? Analyze code coverage in x. Map out code flow and find concurrency bugs in y and on and on... Oh and my favorite: Use 5 independent subagents to review code change and summarize the findings, and for any finding determine if they ar…

Just ask it to "use a workflow" and it'll spin un dozens of agents burning your token allowance in parallel.

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Post by a_sewer_rat »

Rexxar wrote: post #439
murphomatic wrote: post #341

Get ready for this to become a common theme. Boardrooms are still engaged in the fever-dream promise that AI will solve all their problems, particularly those involving pesky humans. The simple lesson of "AI is another tool" will be a hard-learned one. Some industries, such as software, will take more time to mop themselves into a corner before they discover that velocity should never be a first-class concern. Speed…

> velocity should never be a first-class concern Some people have not learned that velocity at small scale without global synchronisation is just thermal agitation.

Someone should tell this to Bungie’s Justin Truman

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Post by BoingBoomTschak »

murphomatic wrote: post #341

Get ready for this to become a common theme. Boardrooms are still engaged in the fever-dream promise that AI will solve all their problems, particularly those involving pesky humans. The simple lesson of "AI is another tool" will be a hard-learned one. Some industries, such as software, will take more time to mop themselves into a corner before they discover that velocity should never be a first-class concern. Speed…

The word "lesson" implies that there'll be some learning involved in the process. I got your joke, right?

Re: Ford AI hiccups push carmaker to rehire ‘gray beard’ inspectors

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

achow wrote: post #399
calcifer wrote: post #387

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The article has named sources for its quotes, whereas your comment relies entirely on "almost certainly" which sounds a lot less informed.

OP to me sounds more authentic and seems to have inside information. After a quick search I found a publication actually mentioning about these tools: Ford previously told Business Insider that it had developed two bespoke AI-enhanced scanning tools that helped validate that cars were properly assembled before rolling off the lot. The tools, called AiTriz and MAIVs, both debuted in 2024. https://autos.yahoo.com/polic…

How can it be inside information if it's in a yahoo article? And why does OP alleging they are talking about technology A not B and you finding out they use technology A (while we all know they also use technology B as well) make OP more likely to be right? Very fallacious thinking

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Post by aprilthird2021 »

chrisjj wrote: post #438
WarmWash wrote: post #136

Ford has hired 350 engineers over the last 3 years which happened alongside short comings in using AI inspection tooling. This has nothing to do with LLMs and instead is almost certainly about their MAIVIS and AiTriz pilots, which use old school CNNs on custom IBM hardware to do visual inspections.

> This has nothing to do with LLMs and instead is almost certainly about their MAIVIS and AiTriz pilots Where does this article say otherwise?

The dirt bag media! Making insinuation that I actually projected onto their article!

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Post by ToValueFunfetti »

aprilthird2021 wrote: post #447
chrisjj wrote: post #438

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> This has nothing to do with LLMs and instead is almost certainly about their MAIVIS and AiTriz pilots Where does this article say otherwise?

The dirt bag media! Making insinuation that I actually projected onto their article!

You said that you misinterpreted the article in the same way in another comment 1 minute before you left this one. https://news.ycombinator.com/item?id=48705638

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Post by pjc50 »

tgv wrote: post #403
plaguuuuuu wrote: post #392

Earlier quoted context omitted.

AI mandate is one of the best things that's happened to me. It's the easiest metric to game in the world. At one point my boss asked why my AI usage was lower than other team members. I instantly knew what to do. Every session is now run at ultracode effort. My automated PR review bot averages like $80 in usage per PR review.

That's corporate eco-terrorism. How did we sink so low?

Stock prices have always been more important than a habitable environment.

The really stupid thing is that shareholders are also rewarding useless burns of their money. It's capitalist Stakhanovism.

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