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Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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>Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions Microsoft cannot and will not ever get better at naming things. It is said the universe will split open and and eldritch beast will consume the stars the day Microsoft stops using inconsistent and overlapping names for different and conflicting products. Isn't that right .Net/dotnet

Are we talking about .NET standard?

No, we're talking about copilot core, not copilot framework

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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True story: a lot of the Microsoft engineers I interact with actually do use Apple hardware. Admittedly, I onto interact with the devs on the .NET (and related technologies) departments. Specifically WHY they use Apple hardware is something I can only speculate on. Presumably it's easier to launch Windows on Mac than the other way around, and they would likely need to do that as .NET and its related technologies are…

Probably because "Windows Modern Standby" makes laptops unusable by turning them on in your backpack and cooking them. https://youtu.be/OHKKcd3sx2c

I remember having this issue back in 2014... maybe the tech is not there yet.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Recall is great for bashing but relatively inconsequential to anything Microsoft has been doing in this space outside that.

Although it seems in Europe we might all end up with recall style screenshots and scanning of what we're looking at. Part of me wonders if Microsoft knew it would appeal to governments. https://arstechnica.com/tech-policy/2025/12/uk-to-encourage-...

I mean. Ask any gamer if the original Xbox One announcement needing a Kinect and persistent internet connection was a feature request from them or a three letter org.

As someone that was there, we saved the Xbox brand by bullying Microsoft out of normalizing spying on kids and their whole families.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Friendship ended with OpenAI, Now Anthropic is my best friend

Is this the "beginning of the end" for OpenAI?

Yes the product's secret sauce is out and it's becomming a commodity.

But OpenAI is still innovating with new subcategories, and even in cases where it did not innovate (Claude Code came first and OpenAI responded with Codex), it outdoes its competitors. Codex is being widely preferred by the most popular vibecode devs, notably Moltbook's dev, but also Jess Fraz.

In terms of pricing, OAI holds by far the most expensive product so it's still positioned as a quality option, to give an example, most providers have a 3 tier price for API calls.

Anthropic has 1$/3$/5$ (per output MTokens) Gemini has 3$/12$ (2tier) OpenAI has 2$/14$/168$

So the competitors are mainly competing in price in the API category

To give another datapoint, Google just released multimodal (image input) models like 1 or 2 months ago. This has been in ChatGPT for almost a year now

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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I am no big fan of MS, and especially not a fan of W11, but you're operating under the false assumption that their users are still their most important customers. MS's bottom line doesn't depend on how happy users are with W11, especially not power users like ourselves. W11 is just a means of selling subscriptions (office, ai, etc). The question isn't 'are users happy' it's 'will OEMs and business continue to push it…

If their whole business is based around being an established standard and making users happy is not a relevant goal, then why do anything at all? They already are an established standard, so why would they bother taking any further actions whatsoever, making any changes or rolling out any new products? Clearly they are trying to achieve something, right? So what is it?

It is about making specific high value users happy. If the rest of us are unhappy - we don't matter. They know for most people ubuntu or whatever isn't a realistic option and so they can take whatever money they can get from those people. Sure a few people like me will run *BSD or linux, but we are a footnote not worth their time.

The only danger is every once in a while one of those little footnotes becomes large enough to be a problem and you lose the market of those who do matter as well. While there are many obvious examples of where that happened, there are also a lot of cases where it didn't.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Crazy to think that Github Copilot was the first mainstream AI coding tool. It had all the hype and momentum in the world, and Microsoft decided to do...absolutely nothing with it.

The "smart autocomplete" part of Github Copilot is still the most useful AI coding thing for me at the moment. I continue to subscribe to it just for that.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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I switched to Ubuntu last week for my desktop. First time in my 25+ year career I’ve felt like Microsoft was wasting my time more than administering a Linux desktop would take. The slop effect is real.

I've used Kubuntu for several years, wife too now which is an official, supported flavor of Ubuntu using KDE desktop instead of Gnome. It gives a more Windows like or CDE (Common Desktop Environment - from UNIX systems) feel than Gnome which gives a more Mac feel.

Also a pretty heavy Kubuntu user. After spending my formative years tweaking Linux installs, this distro "just works" for me.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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There will be an integrated voice LLM that hallucinates advice and "useful" tips as you play and cannot be turned off

You jest. https://www.xbox.com/en-US/gaming-copilot

Sigh… Irony truly is dead.

Re: Claude Code is suddenly everywhere inside Microsoft

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Microsoft really needs to get a better handle with the naming conventions. There is Microsoft Copilot, which replaced Bing Chat, Cortana and uses OpenAI’s GPT-4 and 5 models. There is Github Copilot, the coding autocomplete tool. There is Microsoft 365 Copilot, what they now call Office with built in GenAI stuff. There is also a Copilot cli that lets you use whatever agent/model backend you want too? Everything is Co…

Sorry for a question out of topic, but is there still an offline office license available? So you buy it and have it locally?
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