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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by heavyset_go »

ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

> will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux...

Before you do that really research the exact model you plan on buying, and how much support it truly has in Linux. Qualcomm has not exactly lived up to their own hyped intentions of good support on Linux, and that provides a foundation of sand for hardware vendors to further drop the ball on when it comes to Linux support.

Apparently, some models built on the Elite platform have reportedly great support, while others don't. My experience with Linux on ARM SoCs, outside of servers, has made me very wary about using consumer products for desktop Linux with them. You really don't want to be dependent on the vendor, or some random people in their free time, for their custom kernel forks or Linux images, and that seems to be the trend in the non-server ARM boards + Linux ecosystem.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by tsimionescu »

danielheath wrote: post #421
saagarjha wrote: post #414

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Benchmarking a processor for real-world usage is definitely something you can do.

Benchmarking a processor for "app written by someone who disregards performance" is something you can do, but it's a bit of a pointless exercise; no processor will ever keep up with developers ability to write slow code.

An important question people care about is "will my day to day computing improve with the new processor?".

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by wpm »

chk84us wrote: post #432
ktosobcy wrote: post #422

I like the rise of ARM… first AMD and then "PC world" followed suite with Snapdragon. With the latest Elite I think that my next machine (after MPB M1, which is still perfectly fine machine in 2025) will be PC laptop with ~Snapdragon (or something similar) with Linux... I'm fedup with Apples more and more stupid changes and limitations :/ (I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe!) For me cool and s…

> I actually disabled automatic updates to avoid LiquidTahoe Is there even a way to automatically upgrade to a major macOS version? Automatic update settings are only for minor/patch and security responses.

Yeah but even for device administrators using bleeding edge “Declarative Device Management” the “your Mac must be on this version by this time” thing is really hit or miss. I was testing it yesterday just telling a test computer to update to 15.7.1 and while I got nagged to hell, it never actually rebooted to start the update. This is despite claims in each of the nag messages that it would.

At least Apple is still somewhat deferential to the user experience.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by sgarland »

littlecranky67 wrote: post #388
mrheosuper wrote: post #300

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>$800 the M4 Air just seems like one of the best tech deals Not at all, you are stuck with a machine that has only 256GB of ssd(and not upgradeable) and 60hz LCD screen, also only 2 IO ports. the M4 maybe the best mobile CPU, but that does not mean it will make every machine with it the best.

As an owner of an Macbook Pro M4 I am actually looking to sell and downgrade to the Air - because during my day-to-day developing I can't get close to utilizing the M4. Regarding the limitations: 256GB is enough for me, because 95% of the time I use my Macbook docked into my Thunderbolt dock, where I have an external drive (also for Timemachine backups) so plenty of space for big files that I rarely use of can do wit…

I went from a base M1 Air to a mid-spec’d M4 Pro. My main reasons were the 14” screen size, and the lack of a wedge shape for the new Airs (I loved the wedge). IMO, 14” is the perfect size for a laptop that actually sees time in your lap. My 13” Air was fine, but the extra inch is just enough to make a difference, while not feeling overly bulky.

Re: refresh rate, it’s nice, but I wouldn’t miss it most of the time. I have my external monitor for my work M3 running at 120 Hz because I can, not because I need it.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by lomase »

willis936 wrote: post #276
nixosbestos wrote: post #267

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Rust has been in the kernel for sometime now? With 6.18 to include significantly more including arguably the single most important component of Android, binder, entirely re-written in Rust.

Yes, it has. Marcan left Asahi and Linux after the DMA maintainer rejected their patch on non-technical grounds and labeled Rust as cancer for maintainers. So Linus supports Rust in the kernel, Rust patches come in, some maintainers reject them, there is no guidance on where or how Rust will or will not be accepted. Just do a bunch of free work and roll the gatekeeping dice. Very healthy and not abusive.

They left when Linus wrote that social media shaming won't be tolerated and that the main problem was how they were handling things.

To get anything done in the Linux mailing list you need iron will.

Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by balder1991 »

ako wrote: post #348
thewebguyd wrote: post #76

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> The reduced horsepower relative to M-series isn't a problem for me as much as efficiency is Same here. I actually don't care for macOS much, and I'm one of those weirdos who actually likes Windows (with WSL). I tried the surface laptop 7 with the snapdragon X elite, and it's..OK. Still spins up the fans quite a bit and runs hotter than my 14" M4 Pro. It's noticeably slower than the MacBook too, and isn't instant wa…

It’s even worse: Parallels on MacBooks runs windows better than a dedicated windows laptop…

And if you don’t want to pay a subscription, VMWare also breaks no sweat since a long time ago, and it’s very polished at this point.

I recently tried VirtualBox and it’s finally catching up, seems to work without any problems but I didn’t test it enough to find out the quirks.

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Post by [deleted] »

jchw wrote: post #380
dangus wrote: post #286

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I don’t think you’re representing the state of iPad accurately. In iPadOS 26, more extensive multi-window multitasking like Mac was added. The quantity of windows you can keep open at once depends on your iPad’s SoC. If you have a newer Pro iPad with more memory you can keep more of them open and slow down happens further down the rabbit hole. The hardware is being pushed and used. As another example, the iPad has pr…

I don't suggest the problem is that the hardware can't be "pushed and used", the problem is that the hardware is being artificially limited by Apple for some unknowable reason. (Well, the reason is knowable, but I'm sure some would dispute it anyways. It's very clearly an extreme defense of their 30% cut on all software that runs on iOS devices.) This is not a question, it doesn't matter what people are doing with iP…

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Re: Leaked Apple M5 9 core Geekbench scores

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Post by balder1991 »

whyoh wrote: post #378
cosmic_cheese wrote: post #60

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Yeah for most "normal" users the Mini is pretty ideal. It's got enough power that it's overkill for most folks while being the least intrusive a desktop could possibily be: it's tiny, it doesn't have a power brick, it doesn't make any noise, and it's not going to impact your power bill hardly at all.

>it doesn't make any noise You can hear the fan at full load, especially on the M4 Pro. I really wish Apple went with a larger case and fan for that chip, which would allow quieter cooling. Also, many units are affected by idle (power supply) buzzing: https://discussions.apple.com/thread/255853533?sortBy=rank The Mac Mini is quieter than a typical PC, but it's not literally silent like, say, a smartphone.

That might be a recent phenomenon caused by the inevitable heat of the CPU getting closer and closer to its limit? Like explained in this video: https://youtu.be/AOlXmv9EiPo

My Mac Mini M2 never does any noise, even when I run FFMpeg the fans don’t spike. It just gets slightly warmer. Still, unless I’m doing these high CPU bound activities, every time I touch it it’s cold as if it was turned off, which is very different than my previous Intel one that was always either warm or super hot.

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