C'est cool ça comme projet!
- Pas mal non? c'est Français! :)
Docs – Open source alternative to Notion or Outline
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That was funny, but as a Frenchman I don't hold too much hope. Our far right, supporting both Trump and Putin, has been gaining steam with each passing election for the past 20 years. Hopefully the circus currently taking place across the pond is enough to deter some from voting for them, come 2027?
The far-right is a symptom of what is happening in France. Fix the problems and the far right will disappear. Unfortunately, that would mean that the politicians from the last 20 years need to do a mea culpa on quite a few things and that will never happen so the far right will eventually get in power. Don't blame the players, blame the game.
> The far-right is a symptom of what is happening in France.
They are having the same outcomes using the same tactics all over the world. It's not dependant on the country.
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#444Looking at how much infrastructure needs to be spun up, I don't really see this as a good solution for personal note taking. If you use the Docker environment, you spin up 10 or more containers... including KeyClock. I get that this is intended to by hosted by a company or an organisation, but plenty of people are using Notion just as individuals. Most people would be better of with Obsidian, Bear, Notion or even App…
We're working on an "IDE for notes/tasks" [1] in the space of Notion and so on where you can easily self-host the sync backend with a single binary. The idea is that you can choose between cloud or self-host (and "eject" at any time to switch between the two if you ever change your mind). We hope that might be a good balance between some companies or individuals wanting to self-host but still making it accessible whe…
I see you can @ people. Does that mean you can get notifications when you've been @-ed? Also, is there the ability to comment on documents? For me these are two killer features to leave a Notion or Confluence.
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#445Earlier quoted context omitted.
That was funny, but as a Frenchman I don't hold too much hope. Our far right, supporting both Trump and Putin, has been gaining steam with each passing election for the past 20 years. Hopefully the circus currently taking place across the pond is enough to deter some from voting for them, come 2027?
That's what I hope too. Trump's failure could be our far-right failure to win the 2027 elections.
That's been the Democratic Party's strategy for decades: Don't confront them and the Republican candidate, Trump in particular, will 'shoot themselves in the foot'.How is that working? On their part, it's just cowardice and laziness.
There is no way you will win, no way they will stop, unless you fight (politically and socially) and defeat them.
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#446This got me genuinely interested - until I cloned the project and saw the docker-compose file.
Minio + Celery + 4-5 services just for the main app + Keycloak?
I'm sorry, but this isn't something that "anyone can run".
This is something that requires a beefy server and someone who can manage microservice architectures with 10+ services.
I'm not sure why all of those services are requirements for the app.
I don't know why you need an S3 provider and a federated identity manager to run something that looks like Notion.
I don't know why you need to split the app into 5 microservices.
And I honestly don't think that all of this overhead is needed.
I'll give Docs another look if it decides to trim some of this bloatware.
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> ... seems like a good idea, as long as everyone in the government isn't incompetent. For example, if we had governments with strong tech departments that could fund helping the development of... The US had two very strong and competent tech departments -- 18F and USDS. They got doge'd -- dismantled and coopted, respectively.
All those competent departments. Dismantled on a whim. It is unbelievable. How many billions of investment dollars are wasted that way, spent during many years to organize such departments efficiently?
18F and USDS were actually relatively cheap in the grand scale of government software procurement.
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#448For my data engineers, some similes: basic note taking apps like Joplin are like a data warehouse. Notion is like a data lake. What we need is something like a data lakehouse. Hopefully this might be it.
Obsidian! It's a lot cheaper than databricks.
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#449why everyone ends up using yjs as their choice of CRDT framework. aren't there better alternative or it is just following the popular choice?
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Personally, even if this software wouldn't be 1:1 capable of replacing the established players, it still feels like a good idea. With how much people (rightfully) complain about how open source is underfunded and with how often we're forced into borderline exploitative dealings with the established players in the market (the likes of MS Office, Adobe products, Atlassian products, even some Oracle stuff), funding the…
This will be a controversial take here on HN: I'm not too excited about governments getting directly involved in the development of software, let alone open source. With possibly a few exceptions (internal software for national agencies, etc.), it is way outside their area of expertise. I think it would be better to pay a vendor like Redhat or SuSE or Cannonical to do it. And, the gov't can write the support contract…
This is hilariously ignorant, especially when it comes to France.
There are a ton of open source government projects from various agencies and contributing universities - from the government SSO (https://github.com/france-connect) to the Covid contact tracing and health pass management app (https://gitlab.inria.fr/stopcovid19) to the tax code to the unemployment app to a million other things (https://code.gouv.fr/sources/#/awesome). And all of them are good, usable, and (almost always) with permissive licenses.
Why hire an external vendor that has to add a profit margin, and lose the competency when that vendor changes for the next contract, or become a hostage to them? You literally can only lose.