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Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by GekkePrutser »

FullyFunctional wrote: post #372
blackoil wrote: post #351

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And some are old enough to have read millions of predictions of death of IBM, Microsoft, Apple, Google and FB.

and Sun, Netscape, etc. Just because some of these predictions didn't happen doesn't mean a lot of them did. Sun Microsystems appeared solid. Apple _did_ almost die. IBM is only a shadow of their former self (IMO, the original IBM _did_ die). FB and Google are still young in comparison. I have no stake in either, but IMO Google is more likely to survive than FB. FWIW, both have high quality staff that will bail if th…

The old IBM really just sold itself off in little pieces.

What's left is a few pieces that have no idea what they want to be but they just keep doing what they do because the brand name assures them customers.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by philjohn »

AOsborn wrote: post #212
next_xibalba wrote: post #40

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> the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Wouldn't a consequence of this be that Facebook would be losing users in drovers? And yet the data seem to disagree. This is a type of take that feels very "inside baseball" and fueled more by the feelings of its proponents than any kind of empiricism.

That's a fair point. I think another perspective is that this is a case of businesses chasing (or being forced to chase) endless 'growth'. Facebook is likely optimising to increase engagement and revenue. But in my humble opinion the Facebook of the early 2000s was close to perfect in terms of use. Obviously leaving the product the same wasn't going to drive that revenue and make the careers of all the employees. I w…

Facebook is still that for me - I don't follow groups and my feed is 99% far flung friends posts about their lives - we've also moved past the "look, everything in my life is perfect!" phase and people are more honest.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by Sander_Marechal »

sofixa wrote: post #322
cft wrote: post #277

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Even though the original product is dead, they bought WhatsApp and Instagram, which are far from dead

WhatsApp isn't dead, but it isn't really monetisable. We'll see how Telegram Premium goes - personally i have it, but i doubt many people are willing to pay for a chat app with tons of free alternatives.

I'm happy to pay for chat, just not for Telegram. I'd absolutely pay for Signal.

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Post by NonNefarious »

laszlojamf wrote: post #341
NonNefarious wrote: post #317

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Your parents are the only ones left on Facebook. As long as that demographic can sustain it, so be it. But nobody under 70 is going to be on there much longer. Actually, red-state cousin-humpers might still be on there a while longer. They have no place else to go, after Trump's predictably shambolic attempt at creating a competitor.

It still surprises me how perpetuating this stereotype of rural poor conservatives is A-OK.

"This" stereotype?

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by GekkePrutser »

DominikPeters wrote: post #368
b112 wrote: post #309

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Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac Your point is 100% valid, so don't consider this a disagreement. It is merely that McDonalds has changed, and it annoys me. I went to the one on El Camino near Oregon, and waited 7 minutes to have my order taken, and 14 minutes more for my food. Why? Doordash, and others. https://nypost.com/2022/02/14/doordash-to-penalize-mcdona…

A more important reason that McDonald's has become slow is that they've switched to just-in-time assembly of burgers. They used to have an inventory of burgers, and for most orders, you ordered and the person taking your payments immediately assembled your order. Now there is no buffer, and everything is made fresh.

I would disagree with the term 'fresh'. They still fry the patties etc in advance and leave them heated in plastic trays.

They just moved the assembly process closer to the customers but the ingredients aren't any fresher.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by NonNefarious »

paganel wrote: post #340
NonNefarious wrote: post #317

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Your parents are the only ones left on Facebook. As long as that demographic can sustain it, so be it. But nobody under 70 is going to be on there much longer. Actually, red-state cousin-humpers might still be on there a while longer. They have no place else to go, after Trump's predictably shambolic attempt at creating a competitor.

FB is still a thing among the late-30s - early 40s and older than that in some countries in Europe (I'm from Romania myself, in my early 40s), but younger than that there's almost no-one active on FB. Anyway, good riddance, it pained me to see how most of the national politics was being carried out at a certain moment in time (~2014 - ~2019) almost exclusively on FB, a private network. That wasn't right.

Amen.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by deniscepko2 »

AOsborn wrote: post #212
next_xibalba wrote: post #40

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Wouldn't a consequence of this be that Facebook would be losing users in drovers? And yet the data seem to disagree. This is a type of take that feels very "inside baseball" and fueled more by the feelings of its proponents than any kind of empiricism.

That's a fair point. I think another perspective is that this is a case of businesses chasing (or being forced to chase) endless 'growth'. Facebook is likely optimising to increase engagement and revenue. But in my humble opinion the Facebook of the early 2000s was close to perfect in terms of use. Obviously leaving the product the same wasn't going to drive that revenue and make the careers of all the employees. I w…

I have exactly the same feeling. I wonder if there is something like "Facebook 2008" ? It seems like LinkedIn is slowly taking that spot

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by gommm »

GekkePrutser wrote: post #440
sofixa wrote: post #322

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WhatsApp isn't dead, but it isn't really monetisable. We'll see how Telegram Premium goes - personally i have it, but i doubt many people are willing to pay for a chat app with tons of free alternatives.

I'd be very willing to pay for a good chat app. But if Facebook turned around and would say "hey if you all start paying us we can drop the whole evil thing" then yeah they'll get my middle finger. They just have lost my trust.

In Asia, Line seems to be doing well selling stickers which I guess can be a way to monetize a chat app.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by holografix »

I like to go against the current on these topics, try to bring a different perspective even if I don’t fully agree with what I’m saying:

I think the TikTok threat to Meta is overblown. They’re a one trick pony and their trick is the unhealthiest of them all, presenting the user with the least amount of control and provided by the most opaque, state controlled, spyware-esque organisation.

You thought Russia using Facebook for political interference was bad? The CCP is hardwired into TikTok for fucks sakes!

I think Facebook has a longer runway. They will keep milking insta and will prob start doing a better job of monetising Whatsapp.

Also, I think the Occulus is actually pretty great, especially for the price. I can envision a “dumber” version, lighter and with more battery life but 5G dependent for the compute requirements being a thing for external use.

Once a company gets VR done well the smartphone is OVER.

Re: Facebook's TikTok-like redesign marks sunset of social networking era

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Post by shreyshnaccount »

SrslyJosh wrote: post #6

Nobody hates Facebook users more than Facebook, I guess. :-/ I've tried to type out several pithy comments, but the bottom line (to me) is that Facebook just doesn't respect its users or care about their needs. Can you imagine if brick-and-mortar businesses tried to do this? You go out for a Big Mac, but it's not on the menu anymore because Taco Bell had a few really good quarters, so McDonald's decided to pivot to t…

if as a result McDonald's has an amazing growth in revenue, sure this will happen it's just a matter of when
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