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Re: Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon

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Post by russellbeattie » Fri, Jul 22, 2022, 12:35 PM UTC

giardini wrote: post #424

russellbeattie wrote: post #408

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I thought the comment was a pretty straightforward projection of events based on the current direction of American politics, especially the conservative trend of violent and dehumanizing rhetoric, and simply extrapolating based on historical precedent. Given other comments and a few upvotes, I'm not alone in that assessment. Checking your comment and post history it's quite obvious why you've taken exception to it. B…

russellbeattie sez> "..could you talk to your fellow conservatives and ask them to stop threatening the lives of their fellow Americans?" I don't know any conservatives who are threatening anyone. But I'm talking to you and so I ask that you tone it down and quit promoting paranoid BS. If your news stream frightens you, then I suggest you take Joe Biden's advice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo (pretty go…

LOL. Was your whinging to dang about the thread (twice) some sort of attempt to get it or me cancelled because the comments hurt your feelings?? Awesome. Here's a hint: The only way someone could be insulted by pure hypotheticals is if it actually applies to themselves.

You've called me a nutball and whackjob (directly or by innuendo), which as I'm sure you are well aware, is against HN rules of civility. I actually accidentally break this rule all the time, but in this instance I really don't need to worry, as I'm sure you already know exactly what I think of you, so I don't need to elaborate.

Re: Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon

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Post by giardini » Sat, Jul 23, 2022, 6:01 PM UTC

russellbeattie wrote: post #441

giardini wrote: post #424

Earlier quoted context omitted.

russellbeattie sez> "..could you talk to your fellow conservatives and ask them to stop threatening the lives of their fellow Americans?" I don't know any conservatives who are threatening anyone. But I'm talking to you and so I ask that you tone it down and quit promoting paranoid BS. If your news stream frightens you, then I suggest you take Joe Biden's advice: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F-mztxHgYQo (pretty go…

LOL. Was your whinging to dang about the thread (twice) some sort of attempt to get it or me cancelled because the comments hurt your feelings?? Awesome. Here's a hint: The only way someone could be insulted by pure hypotheticals is if it actually applies to themselves. You've called me a nutball and whackjob (directly or by innuendo), which as I'm sure you are well aware, is against HN rules of civility. I actually…

I don't think this entire discussion has proven informative or useful here on HN, ergo my request to Dang. I'm not singling you out, I'm saying that the entire set of posts on this topic is a waste of our time and the topic should be shut down.

You're taking this discussion personally. Don't!

I don't intend to "cancel" anyone and think the whole idea is a breach of rationality, ethics and etiquette. Just some good manners is necessary. Even a heated discussion with overreach is good. Discussion w/o emotional motivation/expression is rarely productive.

And remember, in any discussion, it is clear that you should not care (beyond etiquette and the law) what anyone else thinks of you. Otherwise you will censor your own true thoughts and others will fail to get your message. Then we all lose. That is part of free speech (an old idea, but a good one, perhaps not commonly in use currently).

Re: Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon

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Post by slowhand09 » Mon, Jul 25, 2022, 3:56 PM UTC

PragmaticPulp wrote: post #6

Source is apparently a preprint (that is, not peer-reviewed) uploaded here: https://www.medrxiv.org/content/10.1101/2022.07.15.22277693v... > Participants: Cross-sectional nationwide survey conducted May 13 to June 2, 2022; participants were adult members of the Ipsos KnowledgePanel. 8,620 respondents, but I don't see how they were recruited or how potential bias was accounted for. Given how weird some of the interne…

I recommend you start with the excerpted 1st chapter of "Enemies, Foreign and Domestic". http://enemiesforeignanddomestic.com/excerpts/contents.html

Re: Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon

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Post by 100011_100001 » Thu, Jul 28, 2022, 5:24 PM UTC

systemvoltage wrote: post #346

100011_100001 wrote: post #13

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It is funny, if you go on Christian or conservative forums, they think the left is fascist. My observation so far is that neither is correct about Fascism.

Uhm, you do know that actual Nazis vote Republican right?

Re: Half of Americans anticipate a U.S. civil war soon

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Post by sorry_outta_gas » Tue, Aug 02, 2022, 6:06 PM UTC

sorry_outta_gas wrote: post #101

Imnimo wrote: post #30

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I guess it depends on what you count as "over politics" - I think a lot of people would be willing to engage in violent resistance to something like "the president declares the constitution suspended and all elections indefinitely postponed", but not to something like "the Supreme Court overturns Obergefell vs Hodges". I find the referenced numbers perfectly plausible if they interpret the question to mean something…

After the summer of 2020 I wouldn't be shocked things sprial out of control fast

I'm not sure on the downvotes, I'm speaking about the potential for social unrest and how easily it can be realized not the reasons behind them which everyone is free to agree or disagree with