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As weed gets more potent, teens are getting sick

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Post by rtp4me »

nshung wrote: post #352
worker_person wrote: post #336

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Watching your child being content to work at Taco Bell for the next 50 years is not something to be proud of. Regardless of contentment.

Why not?

Because at some point, the $9.50/hr job at Taco Bell will run its course, and your child will end up with severely limited resources. Together with a lack of funding and poor health care options, your children will probably return back home to "evaluate their situation". At that point, they will start wondering why they have been left behind in society, why the system is rigged against them, etc.

As we all know (and frequently discussed here on HN), a minimal wage job results in limited housing options, limited healthcare options, limited educational options, etc. As a parent, it is my responsibility to prepare my children to become self sufficient beyond the minimum wage job. For the sake of themselves and their children.

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Post by trixie_ »

A lot of people have the exact same story. First few times, time slows down. Next few years it's a good time, then after that you have a good chance of developing an anxiety disorder from weed. At that point people usually stop doing it because it doesn't get any better.

If only some research was done on the long term affects before legalizing it. Instead now we're doing a population wide experiment.

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Post by blazingfrog2 »

lovehashbrowns wrote: post #371
julianlam wrote: post #340

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It's a nice line of thinking, sure—that you can achieve happiness and contentment without having to strive for the "best". That's the whole point of the matter though, isn't it, that if you don't have ambition, then you voluntarily get yourself stuck in a rut of your making. "I'm content in that my life is shitty in X or Y way, but cannot do anything about it". There was a time when I found comfort in thinking that I…

I don’t understand the thought process of putting someone down based on what they do for a living. Particularly when it just doesn’t make any sense whatsoever. The world around you revolves around people that clock in and out day after day. Maybe one day we’ll have 7.5 billion CEOs in the world, huh?

> I don’t understand the thought process of putting someone down based on what they do for a living

Discounting the counter productive condescension required to be the one putting the other guy down, we should all be honest with a simple fact: any typical software dev (just talking about what I know) can succeed at a gas station job while the reverse is not true. This obviously does not afford the software dev the right to be a jerk to anybody (up or down the ladder).

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Post by margalabargala »

iamdbtoo wrote: post #253
margalabargala wrote: post #65

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That's because the existence of outliers doesn't disprove the existence of a trend. Saying that there are successful daily cannabis users and therefore chronic cannabis use doesn't have negative effects on one's brain, is similar to saying that you're holding a snowball and therefore global warming doesn't exist.

> That's because the existence of outliers doesn't disprove the existence of a trend. Yeah, exactly. Either way it proves nothing about a person or their life.

It means the person you originally replied to was correct to call it a "danger", because while it doesn't preclude the possibility of success as you noted, it does make it less likely for a given individual.

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Post by pojzon »

lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

But! You will be more likely to accept the world as it is - thus making it legal everywhere has great benefits. Mostly for ruling bodies.

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Post by tr1ll10nb1ll »

mesofile wrote: post #119
lacker wrote: post #57

The real danger with cannabis is not that it'll make you sick or have some nasty side effect like this article describes. The danger is simply that you will like it, you'll end up using it every day, all different times of the day, and it won't really hurt your health as much as it will make you live your life in a somewhat dopey, detached, less-intelligent way. As time goes on it won't feel "fun" it'll just feel "no…

I thought the way that South Park put it (in the voice of Randy Marsh) many years ago was just about perfect: “Well, Stan, the truth is marijuana probably isn't gonna make you kill people, and ...it most likely isn't gonna fund terrorists, but... Well son, pot makes you feel fine with being bored and... It's when you're bored that you should be learning some new skill or discovering some new science or... being creat…

Moderation is key here, I believe. If you’re looking at successful people who get high all the time, it’s safe to assume they increased their marijuana (or any other substance) intake after having a skill they’re really good at. Most don’t and that’s why we see a correlation with drugs and being not good at much.

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Post by gowld »

monktastic1 wrote: post #386
worker_person wrote: post #336

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Watching your child being content to work at Taco Bell for the next 50 years is not something to be proud of. Regardless of contentment.

Everyone is focusing on whether being content with working at Taco Bell is sufficient in life, but I think the more interesting question is whether they truly are content. That's not for me to answer, but if the South Park quote has any truth (and I think it has more than a little), in 50 years' time, they themselves might not be happy with how things went in retrospect. In that case, it's possible they weren't reall…

People who ruined their lives with hard work and stress to make a billionaire richer while buying a useless polluting fancy car and big house, also have regrets.

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Post by trixie_ »

AnthonBerg wrote: post #427
redisman wrote: post #100

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It’s a terrible anxiety medicine as probably the most common side effect is anxiety.

I’ve come to see cannabis in the way that it buries anxiety, and this buried anxiety then goes sour. Festers. There’s also a sense that something about cannabis turns people’s imagination against themselves. Long-term use. At first it seems to free up the imagination and enhance the sense of meaningful experiences and emotion. Then that slowly turns to fog and people tend towards these little micro-jumps to conclusio…

Same here and with many friends. It goes from time slowing down, to a few years of fun times, then anxiety, at which point many people stop doing it. Though I've seen people keep going and develop full scale paranoia, thinking that everything is a conspiracy.

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Post by gowld »

monktastic1 wrote: post #399
s5300 wrote: post #348

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Why? Billions across the world would be incredibly happy with their kids getting to do something like this. If you aren’t happy with a content child, sounds like you had children for all of the wrong reasons & would be a horrible, potentially abusive parent.

I understand the underlying sentiment, but this is an awfully aggressive way to get your point across. The irony is that we tend to be aggressive when we're triggered due to unresolved traumas in ourselves -- which we then pass on to our own kids. I'm not here to psychoanalyze you, but food for thought.

Fair, but the context was a parent publicly shaming their children for living peaceful, eco-friendly, simple lives, which is far worse.
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