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Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by FpUser »

rabuse wrote: post #381
PierceJoy wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your only taking away someone’s livelihood if being an unvaccinated trucker is their only option. The vast majority of jobs in Canada do not require a vaccine. Choices have consequences. Mandatory school vaccinations, mandatory military vaccinations, mandatory drug testing in many jobs, etc. Why did no one lose their minds over those things?

"Just learn to code bro" energy.

Just for your information "bro":

Big Canadian company that does much software development has sent mail to their (never mind employees) but subcontracting companies - get vaccinated or you are out.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by dang »

All: if you're going to post in a thread like this, where the topic is inflammatory, please make sure you're up on the site guidelines: https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html — and do one of the following:

(1) post thoughtfully and substantively, with respect for the people you disagree with,

or

(2) don't post.

We want curious conversation here.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by klyrs »

landemva wrote: post #382
klyrs wrote: post #215

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I don't know what decade you were born in, but I have cousins aged 18 and 20 that have never been vaccinated because of their mom's political beliefs.

For their health when older, I hope they look into getting exposed to chicken pox ASAP.

Their grandma just died of covid, and while part of me would hope that it would be a wakeup call, the kids are all home-schooled, so they've probably swallowed the narrative that nothing different could have been done; it was just her time to meet Jesus.

I hope they don't get chickenpox, personally. I hope they get some life experience that opens their eyes to how ignorant they are.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by culi »

sreejithr wrote: post #353

Why exactly should GoFundMe refund the money? How is this different from other fundraisers? I believe in vaccines but I don't understand why GoFundMe can't accept trucker donations.

The difference was likely the threat of GFM getting involved in expensive legal situations since the protests were growing increasingly violent. The Canadian Trucking Alliance itself pointed out that most of the protestors had no connection with trucking. Other investigations found a lot of the participants had ties to white nationalist movements.[0] GFM is in a tricky spot. They prolly realized being hated by ant vaxxers was less of a headache than being accused of helping white nationalists. Their own public announcement simply stated that the cops pressured them to take it down due to reports of violence (which violates their TOS)

[0] https://globalnews.ca/news/8543281/covid-trucker-convoy-orga...

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by dang »

joemazerino wrote: post #432
s5300 wrote: post #360

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Which was something like the entirety of a half of a city block mostly centered around urban farms

Quoted post unavailable.

Please keep flamewar rhetoric off HN. It's not what this site is for, and it destroys what it is for.

https://news.ycombinator.com/newsguidelines.html

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by jstanley »

pessimizer wrote: post #239
temp8964 wrote: post #15

GoFundMe should be political neutral, but it openly turns left. I recommend a long post explaining this phenomenon: https://richardhanania.substack.com/p/why-is-everything-libe...

> GoFundMe should be political neutral Why? Are you advocating for ISIS to be able to do a gofundme?

Why shouldn't they be able to? Gofundme shouldn't be in the business of picking winners and losers. If someone wants to collect money for a cause, then Gofundme should be a neutral platform for that.

It's up to individuals whether they want to donate to any particular cause.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by PierceJoy »

blast wrote: post #397
PierceJoy wrote: post #352

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Your only taking away someone’s livelihood if being an unvaccinated trucker is their only option. The vast majority of jobs in Canada do not require a vaccine. Choices have consequences. Mandatory school vaccinations, mandatory military vaccinations, mandatory drug testing in many jobs, etc. Why did no one lose their minds over those things?

I think you've effectively conceded the point here. Losing one's job is generally understood to be a catastrophic outcome for people in our society, especially when someone has been doing that job for a long time (and perhaps also doesn't have the educational level to get another job at anything close to the same compensation). It follows that "do X or you're fired" is a form of force or coercion. In fact that's so o…

> Losing one's job is generally understood to be a catastrophic outcome for people in our society, especially when someone has been doing that job for a long time (and perhaps also doesn't have the educational level to get another job at anything close to the same compensation)

I haven't seen any mass protests about at-will employment. Why not?

> It follows that "do X or you're fired" is a form of force or coercion.

But we've had these things around for decades. Vaccines have been required in other jobs, tests have been required for jobs, and yet no mass protests. Why not?

> Threatening someone with a severe material consequence and then saying "it's not force because it's your choice" isn't an argument most people are going to accept, and I find it interesting that you're resorting to it, because it's surely not the strongest argument for your position.

It actually is the strongest argument, because it's true. No one is being forced.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by FpUser »

mc32 wrote: post #220
88j88 wrote: post #209

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That is not what is happening though. The article says, all the money is refunded to all the donors.

Only after they faced a heavy backlash: "...on Friday, saying it violated its terms of service. At the time it said donors would have two weeks to request a refund, with any remaining funds distributed to “credible and established charities.”" "I'm not shoplifting, I put the things back after you caught me."

They should be prosecuted for conspiring to steal funds and use for non intended purpose. Trying to mascarade it fools no one.

Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by [deleted] »

culi wrote: post #402
pessimizer wrote: post #347

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> If you think GFM planned to “steal” the money, you clearly have no clue that the organizer’s plan called for excess funds to be given to charities. So Gofundme gets to turn all the funds into "excess" funds?

Per GFM's standard procedures, which the organizers agreed to when setting up the gofundme, when a gfm gets cancelled, donators have a certain amount of time to ask for refunds. The leftover money that wasn't refunded goes to charities of the choosing of the organizers of the gfm

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Re: Florida governor to investigate GoFundMe over Canada trucker donations

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Post by s1artibartfast »

coldcode wrote: post #278

Hacker News used to be about things that mattered to programmers and startups, etc. Now we are turning into yet another Reddit scream box. This type of article does not belong here. The comments keep turning into pointless vitriol.

While I agree most of the comments are garbage, this is just one thread and you can leave with the back button. There are hundreds of other non political posts a day
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