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Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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Ouch. This will hit my personal domain. At least they could have given us a discount plan (1-2/user/month?).

I don't really have any desire to stay on Google's services, but it's going to be a pain to move things off and I'm sure they are counting on that.

Between this and the Nest-apps-domain-login fiasco, Google has burnt all my good will. It's time for me to wind down my Google stuff.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I am old enough to remember that Microsoft also had a similar free email product for custom domains called Microsoft live mail or something like that. In fact, you can still find articles on the internet about how to move from Microsoft to Google workspaces when Microsoft killed their free product. I think even the users of this product knew that email with custom domain is a premium product that pretty much no email…

The frustrating thing is I think many of us would be perfectly happy paying for a custom domain in plain old regular gmail, but $6 per month per user is waaaay too expensive when all we care about is email.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #254

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> Yet, over the years, these accounts are just worse than free personal Google accounts. Because we are not a business, there is absolutely no benefit to these accounts whatsoever other than the custom domain. In fact, we can't even use the new version of Google Pay. It only works with free accounts! I now feel that this was a favor in disguise: Google spent so many years blocking Domains accounts from new services t…

I am kind of in the same position. I have 4 people using our custom domain for email only given the pain google put on these accounts. They've each setup their custom domain email account to forward to their individual free gmail accounts. Does anyone have a recommendation for a new email service I can point my domain MX records at? I only need email forwarding for these 4 users using my domain and a catchall email f…

I've been very happy with https://forwardemail.net but I'm planning to migrate over to Cloudflare's email forwarding service if it ever comes out of beta or I get accepted as a beta tester.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I'm a Google employee who just found out about this. I'm not annoyed that I have to pay, it's been ~13 years of free service and I don't think Google is obligated to continue providing this to me. The annoying part is that Google doesn't provide any migration tool, but there are migration tools for Google Edu accounts so that graduating students can migrate their data to personal Google accounts. The software is evid…

Right. I think what's lost in translation is because it was free, a lot of early adopters used it in ways that are impractical to transition to paid—extended families, hobby projects, etc, and have been using them for a very long time.

I could almost be sympathetic to them not wanting to build a migration tool.

But the least they could have done is set up a way to permanently forward to another gmail account so at least old email addresses do not break. They did not do that.

Ooh, and one more super fun fact: there is no way to transfer ownership of a Google Drive folder to an account outside of your domain. Which is awesome when you're the owner of a large shared folder that needs to persist.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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I created a free account many years ago for my family. We've all been using it ever since for everything. So I have a lot of purchases and history in there. All of my YouTube stuff, all of my Android purchases. Everything to do with Google. And now they're going to start charging me $70 per family member or delete all of their purchases for the last decade or so. To say I'm aghast is putting it mildly.

I've posted this comment a few times in these threads. I'm in a same boat and did some digging with support and through the docs. When you cancel workspace, the accounts remain active but lose access to just the workspace features (gmail, drive, docs, calendar etc). The accounts will remain the same for things like google play, youtube etc and you won't lose access to any purchases. The biggest impact I can see, othe…

This is about people using G Suite legacy, not Workspace. You can't cancel Workspace if you don't have it.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #74

Earlier quoted context omitted.

To be fair, they stopped giving it away for free 10 years ago (I asked Urs at the time, and he said “it’s too hard to support and test another edition”, whatever). But I’m pissed as well, probably just gonna pay.

80,000 fucking software engineers and they can't handle an extra SKU on their multi-tier product line?

Nobody gets promotion for maintaining free SKU.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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On the other side , not annoyed.

I transitioned from free gsuite to paid a few years ago. For my twelve (12) bucks a month, i get 2tb of storage, great mail services, all the docs i can write, etc.

When i compare to individual apps wanting $10 per month, this is probably my best monthly spend on my list. Fitness apps are the worst.

My main gripe is services that don't work with a paid account, like nest and home automation.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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The bad thing isn't that Google wants me to pay for a service. The bad thing is that some of us have no choice - or need a long day or two to migrate all the stuff. I am a heavy Google Photos user who has shared a lot of albums. Also a lot of Android payments and much more. For Google Photos, I can't export and import albums - only photos. So I would have to recreate the structure manually. This alone is a huge task.…

The GDPR-compliant export tool they offer should also encode your albums, I don't think it will be easy to port them somewhere else, but it should be possible

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #442

I am old enough to remember that Microsoft also had a similar free email product for custom domains called Microsoft live mail or something like that. In fact, you can still find articles on the internet about how to move from Microsoft to Google workspaces when Microsoft killed their free product. I think even the users of this product knew that email with custom domain is a premium product that pretty much no email…

The frustrating thing is I think many of us would be perfectly happy paying for a custom domain in plain old regular gmail, but $6 per month per user is waaaay too expensive when all we care about is email.

I think I pay $60/year for Protonmail, and at least $30/year for my email forwarding service.

$72/year for gmail seems reasonable given it includes drive.

Re: Google requiring all ‘G Suite legacy free edition’ users to start paying

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post #403

I have no issues paying for email hosting with Google (and already do on some domains), but how are people dealing with shared company email addresses with access to things like Google Analytics, Google My Business, etc.? If that shared email address is google@yourdomain.com, and Google suspends that Google account on July 1st, how are you supposed to disconnect it from G Suite and sign it up as a free Google account…

There’s a reply somewhere on here about something called “Cloud Identity Free” — seems like you can ditch the G Suite apps but still keep the SSO sign in.
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