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A year ago, the thought that so many people would reject vaccines that can help end the pandemic was unrealistic. Soooo…
Wrong, a year ago all countries vaccination target was lower Initially started with the medicine standard herd immunity of 65%, which includes vaccinated and recovered And now even 90% vaccinated is supposedly unacceptable https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-56722186
Good. Take away their free healthcare, too, so that they stop taking up ICU beds that smarter people might need.
Good. Do fat people, smokers, and drinkers next.
Healthy people with long, drawn-out illnesses use the greatest healthcare and pension resources.
https://taxfoundation.org/new-study-shows-smokers-and-obese-...
Vitamin D and air quality is the major underlying factor behind COVID severity - its why the virus exhibits such seasonality. Pushing vaccines doesn't address underlying public health problems.
I don't understand, if the vaccines work then why the issue? However the vaccines don't stop you catching or spreading the virus, so why is this banning of the unvaccinated a thing? Very odd.
The vaccines do work by diminishing severity of symptoms and thus reducing rate of hospitalization. The unvaccinated are banned as means to put social and financial pressure on individuals to get the vaccine. It is an unfortunate misconception that any of the currently-approved intramuscular vaccines reduce transmission to a meaningful degree. This social and financial pressure is placed on individuals because urban…
Even given the typical bias of the media it’s still astonishing that Biden got a complete and utter free pass from the media for propagating this idea by basically giving everyone - vaccinated or not - a “mandate” that they no longer needed to wear a mask this past spring / late summer, all for PR points to make it look like the virus had been defeated.
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Yes and this type of doublespeak is coming from the top down in many countries. It’s alarming because “they don’t believe in science” has become a divisive weapon that hand waves away all scientific nuance. The vast majority of young healthy people are completely asymptomatic, they don’t need a vaccine, nor would it be a wise investment of limited doses. Also, previous infection confers protection that is at least as…
> The vast majority of young healthy people are completely asymptomatic, they don’t need a vaccine, nor would it be a wise investment of limited doses. Of course they need a vaccine. Just because you don't have symptoms does not mean (a) that you're not carrying it, and (b) can't infect someone who may not be as healthy as you. Further it's difficult to predict ahead of time how an individual will react to being infe…
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Big American corporations have often made their money through subsidies. Enforcing everyone to take the jabs increases those subsidies (this enforcement is persistent in all countries submissive to USA). That's what makes sense. However, don't assert altruism because there isn't any. The 'save lives' campaign is just a coating to make things easy for the general public to swallow.
yes, and the anti-vaxx crowd is funded by Big Hospital, which wants more people in the ICU so they can rake in those sweet sweet intubation $s.
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Covid is now endemic - that is the scientific consensus. Are you suggesting that we permanently give up our right to decide what medications to take? Taking a vaccine is a forced medical procedure for the benefit of someone other than the individual. I'm fully vaccinated and boosted, but I recognize that effectively forcing this upon people by denying them fundamental rights and services, is not ethical, and sets an…
Several vaccines are already mandated for a variety of travel to countries, jobs etc. Covid is not new in that regard and all this nonsense about an “intolerable precedent” is ridiculous. The precedent has been around with us for a long time and we’ve been fine with it. The only reason this comes up now is because of increased visibility on it.
Also, prior to covid, only students were required to take vaccines - all for illnesses that were much more severe than covid. There were few or none for adults - aside from a small number of countries requiring foreigners to vaccinate for illnesses they were attempting to eradicate.
That's all very different than requiring it for your own citizens so that they can work, travel, and receive government services.
It seems we are heading in a direction where those who don't take the jab will be blocked from receiving government services, prevented from patronizing various businesses, and even restricted from traveling and the ability to work. Are most citizens really okay with this medical apartheid, or are they afraid of speaking out against it?
In other festive COVID news from Canada: >Canada's Justin Trudeau on the unvaccinated: >“They don’t believe in science/progress and are very often misogynistic and racist....This leads us, as a leader and as a country, to make a choice: Do we tolerate these people?" https://twitter.com/KevinBardosh/status/1476838517007257600 My patience with COVID cultists is starting to run quite thin.
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In fact the opposite is true. If everyone gets coronavirus in a two week period, ICU is less overwhelmed for the rest of the year. A lot of susceptible people die, of course. If you attempt to spread it out and succeed, you're at 100% capacity basically all of the time, plus 99% of people get to deal with the fact that coronavirus restrictions are utterly miserable. Omicron has probably made all of this irrelevant an…
I'm vaccinated and effectively boosted. I've been going out tons and not being careful at all. I kissed my girlfriend recently who had as it turns out Omicron at the time. I have yet to catch it. "Everyone" is a significant stretch. Yeah its seriously contagious but you, an engineer, should know better than deal with such absolutes. Viruses burn out long before they infect everyone, even without vaccines and even if…
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Unvaccinated people are a threat to the public on many grounds. Many of these points are already all over this discussion here, but you’re asking so here they are. Unvaccinated people with covid on average have the infection for longer and have higher viral loads, so they are more likely to spread the virus to others than vaccinated people are. They are much more likely to need hospitalisation, putting a burden on th…
I haven't seen data for Canada, but in the US, at no time in the past two years have more than 80% of ICU beds been occupied. At no time have more than 25% of ICU beds been occupied by Covid patients. And the impact of Covid on overall inpatient hospitalization has been negligible. [1] Are you sure Trudeau isn't gaslighting you into believing the problems with Canadian healthcare are due to the unvaccinated, and not…
Furthermore, as they approach 100% they start enacting "crisis standards of care" such that people who would have been admitted are not. They're put in hospital conference rooms, hallways, or regular rooms without the normal life saving equipment present.