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The next advancement after the some of the first web-browsers was pop up blockers. So, at the very least; someone was annoyed at “notifications”.
I’ve been using Android for some years, and notifications are a non-issue. Yet it always comes up from safari apologists.
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I simply solve that problem by having most notifications be silent. Only urgent ones (calls, text messages from a select group of people) are effectively "push" notifications. The rest buffers until I get to looking at my phone.
This is where Apple's paternalistic view takes over. I think Apple's design view is that you the user shouldn't have to take action to protect yourself from sties abusing this feature, the Google view is that it's a free for all. There are merits to both approach and I wish users of both platforms would understand that.
Isn’t it generally accepted by both small children and adults that having a Dad is better than not?
Sure, teenagers rebel for a while against anyone caring about them, but they tend to grow back out of that as soon as they have to parent too.
I speak as a non-developer but as someone who makes their living with a computer: From my perspective, Apple's conservative attitude is a positive. There are all sorts of web techs that enable the possibility of increased tracking, of websites being generally malicious, of all sorts of things that I don't want. Historically Apple has been on my side and I will continue to appreciate that until demonstrated otherwise.
Are you implying Mozilla Firefox cares less about the user than Apple? Why not let Mozilla have it's browser on iOS? It's not about the user, it's about having an iron chokehold on the developers and we are too cool aid drunk to call it out.
If I look at Pocket and some of their surprise telemetry decisions, I think it's a reasonable implication. They care more about the standards and "providing an alternative to X" than they do the end user.
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Mozilla is mostly funded by Google.
And that's irrelevant, Mozilla's decision-making is quite independent of Google's. Firefox on Android is an excellent browser. Firefox on iOS could be the same if Apple let go of its chokehold.
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> I suspect that developers are simply angry with Apple for not letting them to fiddle with the latest stuff that Google is experimenting with. That is absolute bullshit. Browser push notifications have been out for years on other browsers (INCLUDING desktop Safari), and they are the one thing that Apple is dragging their feet on the most because they know it's the most important thing that prevents a dev from just d…
This is a personal opinion, but I'm actually really glad Apple are dragging their feet on this. I absolutely despise presumptious software that feels entitled to my attention as and when it chooses. I have my browser set up to wholesale reject all push notifications, I don't let the vast majority of my apps send me push notifications, and any application that feels entitled to pollute my inbox (email already has an a…
Push notifications are extremely useful for a few niche applications. Do not throw the baby out with the bathwater.
The general hatred of stability speaks volumes about the attitude of web developers (or perhaps the strength of Google's propaganda) --- what in $deity's name is wrong with software not changing ? Look at something like a C64, which has remained basically unchanged for a few decades and the original is long out of production; and yet people are still writing new software for it. Bugs and limitations become features t…
I agree with your general sentiment, and I despair at the slow tide of inefficient, ill-behaved applications built with web technologies swallowing up every category of software. However, I think the main complaint here is that Safari is missing support for some pretty low-hanging fruit. Take notifications for example: there's a whole wealth of web-based systems where the user might want to receive notifications, but…
There's not one site that's allowed to spam me with notifications on the desktop, and I'm thrilled beyond belief that they can't do it on my iPhone.
Build your websites with progressive enhancement in mind, and you'll never have a problem with safari again. Safari is great.
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Native performance is a feature in itself and is not about speed but about UI standards and features. If your statement was true, there wouldn’t have to be any complaints about Apples ‘walled garden’ because there is no ‘walled garden’ for PWAs.
Apple effectively doesn't allow PWAs on iOS, so I don't follow your last point.
> Because IE was seriously outdated, lacking support for cutting-edge web APIs and technologies enabling the modern websites and web apps we use today. This is just false, or at best only half of the story to make a false equivalence. IE was cutting edge until Firefox. The biggest problem with IE was all the insanely weird shit it did, not missing features. It would “fix” missing tags, that would then be broken on ev…
Biggest problem with Internet Explorer was it was slow. That's largely the result of the weird shit you mention. But if Microsoft had kept IE fast, it would have denied the field to Chrome.
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P.S., my own critique on Safari: the tight tie-in into the OS. Nowadays, as computers are often longer in use as they are in the support/update cycle, it would be really nice to be able to update Safari beyond the OS level. I get it that Safari is basically running the OS web-view framework and that there are serious issues with this (edit: meaning, updating a single framework out of sync with the rest of the OS), bu…
They seem to be working on that. We got Safari 14 some time before the Big Sur release, and I think Safari 13 was faster than the accompanying OS update too ?