Hopefully they will use it to compete against google , rather than helping them with their world domination plans. This might be a good thing
Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
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Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
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Edge isn’t IE. That you don’t know that is indicative of the problem.
Edge is an evolution of Internet Explorer. They removed some of the quirks they have added over the years, modernized the engine, but it's Internet Explorer to its core. It's just rebranded.
No, it's a new browser built from the ground up with none of the baggage of IE.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#443Microsoft should give up entirely on Internet browser development. I cannot see any good reason to throw their money away like this. They are a company too dependant on legacy software to bother competing with Google and Mozilla. Cloud services seem to be their brightest modern opportunity, but they really weren't prepared for the 2010's. Competing with Chrome is just chasing cars. Of course they've always had the ad…
generally i agree they are spending a lot of money on development but they are also ensuring the future for their Web Tools when they have their own browser.
Honestly speaking its good to have competition and apart from Firefox and Safari (partially due to being Apple sepcific), Edge was the only Browser (with an own engine) that could compete with Chrome.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
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I'm not sure what more they could do. They're extremely pushy about it in Windows. It takes several steps to make it stop pushing Edge when you open any web links. I don't use Edge (or Chrome) because I don't trust the companies that make them, and it's one small piece of my computing life I can withhold from them. So...there's nothing they could do to make Edge good enough for me, without fixing the lack of trust I…
Chrome didn’t come to dominate the desktop browser market by forcing users’ hand, but by offering a better experience. The few times I used Edge, nothing gave me a remotely better experience, I only noticed small annoyances and moved on.
> Chrome didn’t come to dominate the desktop browser market by forcing users’ hand, but by offering a better experience.
Disagree strongly. Reasons:
- Google has been extremely pushy with Chrome, including lying (IMO) about it on their front page, a place where no other ads have been shown ever (IIRC).
- Their own products often don't work in other browsers. Might be an honest mistake but personally I really don't buy the idea that Google cannot afford a QA team, so I'm going with the idea that they classify all this as "really useful bugs".
- People keep telling me that Chrome is better. I've tried to like Chrome (before I started shunning Google, I used to be a fanboy) and for me it could never replace Firefox for work (development, support and research). So I go with "better for some people".
- Today I'd argue that more than ever Chrome is a worse choice. It's not like they've stopped sending every address you type in back to their AI, and recently they've strayed so far from "Don't be evil" that even they realized it was becoming a joke. (Something something about animals on a farm and pigs painting the barn wall at night.)
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#445Earlier quoted context omitted.
I'm not sure what more they could do. They're extremely pushy about it in Windows. It takes several steps to make it stop pushing Edge when you open any web links. I don't use Edge (or Chrome) because I don't trust the companies that make them, and it's one small piece of my computing life I can withhold from them. So...there's nothing they could do to make Edge good enough for me, without fixing the lack of trust I…
Chrome didn’t come to dominate the desktop browser market by forcing users’ hand, but by offering a better experience. The few times I used Edge, nothing gave me a remotely better experience, I only noticed small annoyances and moved on.
> Chrome didn’t come to dominate the desktop browser market by forcing users’ hand, but by offering a better experience .
That, and popping up that "works better in chrome!" thing on every one of their web properties for a few years.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#446Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft only releases it on one OS. so if you happen to use a Mac or Linux you need another browser. Chrome and Firefox are the only viable options. Also Microsoft are victims of their own legacy, namely what they did with Internet Explorer. Changing the box model, not adopting standards, not fixing bugs, causing no end of headaches for people having to support IE and so on. Trust needs to be earned. Apple had the…
On Arch Linux, the browser would often crash after the system upgrade installed a newer version of Firefox. I read on their bug tracker that the upgrade prompt was a workaround for this (or at least one reason for it).
They should just do it when you close the last window, if the OS is not shutting down.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#447What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…
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Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#448I wonder if this also means ChakraCore would be abandoned. I haven't played with it directly, put it seems to be a very capable JS runtime, which has no home outside of Edge. Well, there is node-chakracore, but I wonder why Microsoft would interested in keeping that effort.
Unless... they replace V8 in their Chromium build with Chakra. They already have a V8 API shim, so I guess that would be within reach.
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#449Earlier quoted context omitted.
Microsoft only releases it on one OS. so if you happen to use a Mac or Linux you need another browser. Chrome and Firefox are the only viable options. Also Microsoft are victims of their own legacy, namely what they did with Internet Explorer. Changing the box model, not adopting standards, not fixing bugs, causing no end of headaches for people having to support IE and so on. Trust needs to be earned. Apple had the…
Few things to note: - Edge is (kindof) available on Android. It uses the Chromium engine, but includes bookmark and password syncing with the desktop version. - Firefox will (depending on platform support) update in the background and notify you to restart (Windows), or it will apply the update at app start (macOS).
They should apply it when the last window is closed (checking the OS is not shutting down).
Re: Microsoft is building a Chromium browser to replace Edge on Windows 10
#450What other options do they have? Even on HN you hear "I use Egde to download Chrome". Many of you here don't test your own work in Edge. At the same time Microsoft is getting the heat that Windows 10 is unstable and the last major update shows that it is. Very urgently, I imagine, Microsoft is trying to change the perception of Windows 10 by doing everything they can to make it more stable. Changing the browser engin…
Microsoft only releases it on one OS. so if you happen to use a Mac or Linux you need another browser. Chrome and Firefox are the only viable options. Also Microsoft are victims of their own legacy, namely what they did with Internet Explorer. Changing the box model, not adopting standards, not fixing bugs, causing no end of headaches for people having to support IE and so on. Trust needs to be earned. Apple had the…
The only problem with IE box model was that they implemented it before the standard got finished (and changed) so it was impossible to fix it without breaking already existing web pages.
The situation is not very different from now with Chrome implementing unfinished proposals.