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Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by krisdol »

throwaway91111 wrote: post #390
komali2 wrote: post #288

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You just look at the hardware and read reviews. There isn't really a sliding scale for PCs, that's the awesome thing about manufacturers that let you customize. Doing a lot of gaming or modelling? Better graphics card. Running shitloads of processes? Better ram. Better processor. Extra HDD, or SSD, or optical drive? Etc.

Nothing about driver compatibility :( it's a long and painful process to figure out if the computer you want will even work with the software you want to use. Of course I'm sure it's better if you use the blessed OS and version pair, but I've never found a reason to use windows before....

Driver compatibility could be hell in windows as well if you're cursed with a "switchable" graphics option. My last lenovo could switch between on-board and dedicated graphics, but the latest video driver that lenovo provided was from the year before I even bought the laptop. If I used the card manufacturer's drivers, they'd usually work but killed the ability to switch to on-board graphics; but if I used Lenovo's drivers, games performed very badly due to how out of date they were.

Having one manufacturer and fewer models usually means longer and more consistent product support.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by klodolph »

Eric_WVGG wrote: post #214
klodolph wrote: post #162

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I'm not super knowledgeable about this so take this with a grain of salt. Some of this might be wrong. Good modern touch screens, like the iPhone/iPad/Macbook trackpad are capacitive touch screens. An array of sensors emit a changing electric field which is affected by the dielectric constant of nearby materials, and fingers have a different dielectric constant from air. Capacitive sensors cannot detect pressure (alt…

The Pro screen is a little different too. The iPad Pro doubles the motion detection to 240hz when there is any kind of touching going on, which reduces the latency when drawing. My understanding is that this significantly adds to the cost of the hardware, and is why we don't have Pencil support across the entire line. I thought that the Pencil does not use a radio a la the Wacom, and is purely Bluetooth, but I can't…

Bluetooth is a radio protocol, I was being being deliberately vague when I said "radio".

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by paperpunk »

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

I found that with my original iPad. I sold it after a while as it wasn't getting much use.

Just last year though I got an iPad Pro 9.7 with the Pencil. That's been pretty game-changing for me as far as making these devices actually useful. Now it's like a journal/lab-book, with extra features, that I carry with me everywhere and make extensive notes in. It doesn't replace my laptop, it replaces my written notes.

I still use the laptop extensively for my work that involves programming. However a lot of my work involves sketching diagrams and solving problems, work that I used to do on paper but now can do digitally.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by greggman »

wnevets wrote: post #320

I know kids and grandparents that use tablets all the time but not really anyone outside of those age groups. Is anyone else finding that to be the case? I know I personally haven't used the ipad in months if not years at this point.

My mom uses her's constantly (mostly as a Kindle). I use mine about once ever 2 months. I keep thinking I should give it away or sell it but I keep it around just in case there's some app I have to check out. I also wonder if I'd actually use it more if it was a pro with the pen but I doubt it.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by mcphage »

spike021 wrote: post #321
sandymcmurray wrote: post #318

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http://www.apple.com/ipad/compare/ to compare current models. iPad Pro 9.7 has better processor, better screen, better camera, is slightly thinner and lighter and works with Apple Pencil and Keyboard accessories. There are now just four options: big Pro, little Pro, iPad, and mini.

Four options, plus all the sub-options: with cellular data or without, 3 or so different amounts of space.. With the larger iPads do some people get smaller space, even though larger display probably means more resources/larger resolution media will need to be stored on the device. Spitballing but it's quite a few options.

They're at least independent questions. First you decide which you want, then you decide how much space, and then you decide if you want cellular.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by threeseed »

sushisource wrote: post #366
cocktailpeanuts wrote: post #179

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One of the reasons why he did that was because Apple was dying. They didn't have money and resources to support many models, and they needed to focus and do one thing right. So it was the right decision. As much as I like simplicity, if you look around there are tons of cases like this around us, and that's not because these companies are idiots who don't understand simplicity but it's because their products have rea…

Wait, really? You and I being readers of Hacker News are probably in a better position than 90%+ of customers to understand the benefits of one iPad over another. If it's not clear to us... who is it clear to?

Be very careful about that line of reasoning. My experience is that IT educated people are the least in touch with the mainstream world.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by threeseed »

puranjay wrote: post #383
JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

Recently dropped by the local Apple store here. I was in the market for a laptop. They had about 4 different Macbook variants. Plus some older Macbook Pro models with HDD. Others with non-retina screens. A few years ago, it was pretty simple: you bought the Macbook Pro for serious work, Macbook Air for portability. Now it's just confusing. Like Dell or Lenovo.

Revisionist history.

Apple was still selling the MacBook back then so it was never just two models. And they were still selling the non Retina MBP for a while as well.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by ams6110 »

JohnnyConatus wrote: post #89

There is a legendary story about how Steve Jobs, upon his return to Apple, drastically cut-down the number of models that they offer. How on earth have they forgotten that lesson? Trying to figure out the differences between the 9.7" iPad and iPad pro is not easy, and regardless, it makes it harder to buy.

My first question was "is that bigger or smaller than a normal iPad" (I don't own one).

Spent a few minutes looking at the site to try to find out, then lost interest.

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Post by intrasight »

6stringmerc wrote: post #435
wil421 wrote: post #192

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Have an iPad 3, I find a lot of apps to be close to unusable at this point. Safari is a huge offender and it's full of ui ticks when I open the app or webpage. It seems all my apps are struggling. It's very hard for me to justify a new iPad. I really feel apple could've gone with the OS X on an iPad approach and really taken the whole market. Instead they are slowly adding iOS to Mac OS.

I'm on an iPad 2 and most all of the music programs I use on the regular are without issue. Garage Band. Figure. Some synths. Safari works great too, only the occasional hiccup. Functionally it's still fine, I just fear the day when it will be put out to pasture by Apple in spite of my TLC and enjoyment. I've never felt compelled to visit one of the nearby shops on Harry Hines by the Korean Community to jailbreak an…

I also still have an iPad 2 which is going strong. Is slow but does everything I use it for (movies, magazines, browsing). Is hard to justify upgrading something that works fine. And I bought a Kindle Fire 8 HD on Black Friday for $60, so in a sense I have already upgraded.

Re: iPad 9.7‑inch

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Post by haikuginger »

berberous wrote: post #45

From a Reddit comment, in addition to the bump from a A8x to A9 chip: - It's as thick as the iPad Air 1 (and thus thicker than the Air 2/9.7" Pro). - No laminated display (and no AR coating, True Tone, or wide color). - Air 2 quality camera. - The iPad mini 4 is now only available in 128GB, at $399. - The chamfers look matte, like the iPhone SE. Also, no Pencil support or smart connector.

20% larger battery.
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