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Post by joe463369 »

afavour wrote: post #281
zx8080 wrote: post #101

It's so surprising that despute so many screams "China" in western media in the last 15 years, it happens in the west, but in China it's free to use any OS without any negative consequences. Why? What's going on?

China has a whole other level of control going on. You’re free to use any mobile OS you want because they’re able to monitoring every internet connection, see what you’re downloading and block any and all content they deem unsuitable with no recourse. They can also arrest you and move you to a labor camp with little recourse. I’m not defending the UK police’s actions here but “it’s just as bad as China!” is a refrain…

There is zero evidence of any UK police action.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by joe463369 »

fmajid wrote: post #24
uni_baconcat wrote: post #18

This is not how authorities work. They need to prove people guilty, not flag all “suspicious activity” then let people prove they are innocent.

That's in countries that have a constitution, a Bill of Rights that can't be revoked by a simple vote of the legislature, separation of powers and the rule of law. None of which applies to the UK.

The UK has a constitution.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by joe463369 »

wongarsu wrote: post #55
throwfaraway135 wrote: post #14

- Heavy censorship - Two-tier justice system - This How did it come to this? The UK is arguably the country that has done the most for the cause of freedom, having led the way in abolishing slavery.

There is a reason both 1984 and V for Vendetta are set in the UK Though the slide ever since Brexit is indeed astounding

Yes, they were both written by British people.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by snvzz »

mmikeff wrote: post #16
throwfaraway135 wrote: post #14

- Heavy censorship - Two-tier justice system - This How did it come to this? The UK is arguably the country that has done the most for the cause of freedom, having led the way in abolishing slavery.

Can we stop it with this two tier justice system nonsense?

This[0] is what the UK has come to be.

0. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=csBnAX6yS-U

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by joe463369 »

antiloper wrote: post #31

OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system? The only surprising thing about this story is that the user didn't get a visit by the police to be charged with a "non-crime cybersecurity incident". The UK has become such a shithole.

> OI mate, you got a loicense for that operating system?

please don't

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by joe463369 »

diordiderot wrote: post #310
trumpdong wrote: post #212

Earlier quoted context omitted.

In the UK I'd be worried about being arbitrarily arrested, deported, and banned from re-entry. In the US I'd be worried about being murdered. By police. In cold blood.

It's actually easy to avoid getting killed. Simply don't chase, harass, attempt to run over, or assault LEOs doing their jobs Hope that helps.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VBUUx0jUKxc

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by rgblambda »

joe463369 wrote: post #431
afavour wrote: post #281

Earlier quoted context omitted.

China has a whole other level of control going on. You’re free to use any mobile OS you want because they’re able to monitoring every internet connection, see what you’re downloading and block any and all content they deem unsuitable with no recourse. They can also arrest you and move you to a labor camp with little recourse. I’m not defending the UK police’s actions here but “it’s just as bad as China!” is a refrain…

There is zero evidence of any UK police action.

There isn't even any indication of police involvement. "The authorities" could mean anything from the local police service to the National Crime Agency, to the National Cyber Security Centre (part of GCHQ) and anything in between.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

foldr wrote: post #179
trumpdong wrote: post #161

Earlier quoted context omitted.

The police are ignoring the courts and still arresting people for protesting PA.

That's because there's a pending appeal. It may take a while for the situation to fully resolve, legally speaking, but I think it's unlikely that the ban will be sustainable in the long term.

So the bad thing is still happening, but will eventually stop happening, maybe, and this is a win?

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by trumpdong »

dwedge wrote: post #185
Cider9986 wrote: post #135

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> But going to the hassle of running GrapheneOS and then using it to try and submit facial scans to combine your identity with your PSN account just seems so pointless. reply Totally disagree. Everyone has a different threat model. Some people may solely be interested in the exploit protections and not care about their privacy. Some people might just like that it's completely open source or that there's no AI or it's…

The thing is though that this kind of verification is going to be rife if we keep accepting it, and inconveniences like it not working (plus some banking apps) is almost the entire downside of GrapheneOS. If you don't use it for things like this you don't really see any disadvantage. Occasionally I get cloudflare or vercel blocked when trying to read a blog but that's all. So they're at a very strange intersection of…

Everyone should use Graphene. You don't have to be a privacy nut - it's also a version of Android that just works, efficiently, without bullshit, for you and not for Google. You should even install your privacy-violating apps on Graphene because that's better than having them on stock Android.

Re: GrapheneOS user reported to authorities for using GrapheneOS

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Post by t0bia_s »

trumpdong wrote: post #383
t0bia_s wrote: post #374

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Please explain how would you acces to encrypted data on turned off GOS device with locked bootloader.

Ask the owner to come in and unlock it if they ever want it back.

That is not an answer.
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