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Anna's Archive loses $322M Spotify piracy case without a fight

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Post by walletdrainer »

stackghost wrote: post #334
walletdrainer wrote: post #275

Earlier quoted context omitted.

> like it ended for Aaron Schwartz in the worst. They’ll… be offered 4 months in prison, or 6 months with an opportunity to ask the judge for less? I don’t know about you, but to me that seems way more chill than how the TPB guys were treated!

> > like it ended for Aaron Schwartz in the worst. >They’ll… be offered 4 months in prison, or 6 months with an opportunity to ask the judge for less? Surely the implication is that they'll end up being found dead, as happened to Aaron Swartz.

Is the implication then that Aaron Swartz was murdered?

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Post by privacyking »

_-_-__-_-_- wrote: post #159

Last week, I set-up a navidrome (docker compose) server after tagging my files with MusicBrainz and beets. I serve it over a private network (tailnet) using tailscale serve. It works on all my devices and on iOS with an app called Nautiline. Nautiline has a feature where it will switch between my local network address and my tailnet address seamlessly. It was so simple, I can't actually believe it works. It has CarPl…

Have you tried Narjo as an alternative client?

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Post by tsoukase »

crazygringo wrote: post #300

This doesn't change things much , besides making domain name registration more difficult, but I continue to think this Spotify thing was a really dumb move on the part of Anna's Archive. AA is providing a valuable service to tons of people who don't have access to these books otherwise. There's a strong argument to be made for the moral goodness of that -- that even if it's illegal, it's at least in the spirit of a p…

It might be that the "secret owner" had an obsession to liberalise the song field, like the book one, and erroneously thought he could get away indefinitely. Songs are not books as they are backed by much stronger, concentrated and dedicate to kill piracy capital.

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Post by kdheiwns »

dangus wrote: post #353
gertop wrote: post #157

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Please do tell us of that mythical leader who is so good at governing that no other country has ever had a grievance with them?

Well I didn’t exactly make some kind of claim of “no grievance ever,” I’m just saying that it’s not that hard to find countries that have good relationships with the US, China, and EU all at once. Example: most member states within the RCEP trade agreement (e.g., Australia) India Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Peru. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and Turkey all deliberately hedge relations between blocs. Japan and South…

China hates India. China hates Japan even more. China sometimes hates South Korea. The US hates Mexico (and flip flops when presidents do) America imposed a dictatorship on Chile. The US has threatened Brazil recently. The US has also threatened military action against Colombia this year.

Places like Singapore, Nigeria, and Kenya are just irrelevant on the global stage. Singapore is great for money laundering and nobody sees them as a threat to their own sovereignty due to being a tiny little island that's completely dependent on its neighbors for food and water. When you're a big country with a big economy, you get enemies merely by existing.

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Post by [deleted] »

imtringued wrote: post #414
throw0101d wrote: post #333

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> Please don't equivocate “the concept of piracy” as if copyright infringement has any relation to kidnapping and murder. "Piracy" as a term for copying others' creative works dates back to the 1600s, and is in a 1736 dictionary: > The term "piracy" has been used to refer to the unauthorised copying, distribution and selling of works in copyright.[8] In 1668 publisher John Hancock wrote of "some dishonest Booksellers…

What ship? You're saying there is a moral obligation to be incorrect. If anything this is the type of mistake where it's never too late to make things right. 10 billion years could pass and you would still be doing people a favour by calling things by their names.

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Post by dangus »

kdheiwns wrote: post #434
dangus wrote: post #353

Earlier quoted context omitted.

Well I didn’t exactly make some kind of claim of “no grievance ever,” I’m just saying that it’s not that hard to find countries that have good relationships with the US, China, and EU all at once. Example: most member states within the RCEP trade agreement (e.g., Australia) India Mexico, Brazil, Chile, Colombia, Peru. Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, and Turkey all deliberately hedge relations between blocs. Japan and South…

China hates India. China hates Japan even more. China sometimes hates South Korea. The US hates Mexico (and flip flops when presidents do) America imposed a dictatorship on Chile. The US has threatened Brazil recently. The US has also threatened military action against Colombia this year. Places like Singapore, Nigeria, and Kenya are just irrelevant on the global stage. Singapore is great for money laundering and nob…

The US does not hate Mexico, the right wing party just pretends to hate them in order to appeal to their racist voter base. “Hate” doesn’t result in a broad free trade agreement where over 80% of auto parts manufactured in Mexico are sold to the US and companies like GM assemble the Silverado there.

China hates Japan? Where is your PlayStation made? If China hates them so much where are the economic sanctions or restrictions? I certainly agree that there are disputes and negative public perceptions between the countries, but their economies are heavily intertwined.

Same deal with India. China’s largest trade partner, larger than the US. Here’s an article where Chinese officials are glowing about India: https://www.timesnownews.com/business-economy/economy/china-...

We also probably have to exclude threats made by Donald Trump from the discussion since he threatens obvious allies and is generally mentally unstable. Remember how he threatened to annex Canada? Canada is obviously an ally but our fucking moron president doesn’t know that.

Nigeria has over 240 million people, it’s not irrelevant on the global stage. All the African countries I mentioned are of great interest as they reach a developed state.

Fun fact: the Nigerian film industry grossed $6.4 billion in 2024, while the US domestic gross box office was $8.6 billion in the same year.

Calling Singapore irrelevant on the global stage is also laughable. 28th largest GDP in the world, 8th largest per capita. It’s not a Caribbean money laundering center where there’s no local economy. They refine oil, they’re ranked number 2 in biotechnology, 1st in broadband download speeds, 4th in global innovation index, 1st in economic competitiveness, the list goes on.

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Post by dpoloncsak »

mystraline wrote: post #272
dpoloncsak wrote: post #199

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Realistically, what did you want to happen? The cop to check the computer logs and see who changed your hours? Was it even someone in the store, or from corporate? Jurisdiction can get messy... Proving someone intentionally changed your hours as opposed to a mistake or software bug is not the police's job. It quite literally is a civil crime and belongs in civil court, not criminal. I don't even think most police are…

I want the same if the company had called the cops for a theft of $100 from a drawer. If the company's rep calls, I go to jail. If I call, diddly shit happens.

I'd vastly prefer the world where the untrained police actually stop getting involved in matters that they have no purpose being involved in, but to each their own I guess

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Post by lynguist »

Honestly the only organization of the past few years to deserve the Nobel Peace Prize. And I truly don’t mean this in any hyperbolic way, but believe that this organization has done the most to enable human collaboration and thus enable a precursor to peace and progress and prosperity.

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Post by TomasBM »

MrDrMcCoy wrote: post #367
TomasBM wrote: post #124

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While I also find various approaches and reasons behind IP governance dumb, copying IP is piracy. In practice, copying some things is unlawful, regardless if we think it shouldn't be or if piracy once only referred to naval burglary. If you copy a book in a bookstore, or leave a perfect synthetic copy of a natural diamond you take, you'll likely be charged with something . Digitally, that's much a clearer legal charg…

Piracy started as a term directly related to theft. Its use in the modern age for copying is also an attempt to frame the activity as theft, even though there is no action that can reasonably described as theft. Copying leaves the original right where it was, so no theft has taken place. I'm not saying that violating copyright is OK, just that the terms we are using to describe the wrongness are willfully dishonest.…

Look, I'm not even claiming that piracy is a good term for it, or that the association between theft and copying wasn't pushed in pro-IP campaigns. But for the past 20 (or 30?) years, piracy has been the word everyone uses for this type of activity.

My point is: even if you changed the word, and explained the difference to everyone who couldn't distinguish between (A) literal theft of a physical object, and (B) a replication of some sequences of binaries, you're still not addressing the real question.

And the real question is: Why shouldn't an author have an option to protect their IP, physically or digitally? What's the difference between copying a physical book and a digital book without author's approval, from the point-of-view of an author trying to get paid for every copy?

I'm personally a fan of alternatives to IP-based earnings and earning enforcement, but I don't see how that helps any author trying to make a living from their content in the world where there are very few alternatives.

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Post by lamonade »

senko wrote: post #413
kube-system wrote: post #319

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The above claim was in fact regarding “intellectual property”. If you break it down, there are plenty of IP rights which make a lot of sense. Here’s one for copyright: “Do you think any corporation should be allowed to make closed source forks of GPL software?”

If there’s no copyright, there’s no closed source. You get their code, decompile/disassemble and reuse as you see fit. You might argue that doesn't help much if they never distribute that code (only runs on their servers). Here’s the inconvenient truth: GPL already allows that. Anyone can take a GPL codebase, do any modifications they want, run it forever, and never contribute back. You’d need AGPL to forbid that. GP…

Here’s the convenient truth: GPL doesnt allow distributing the binary without distributing the code. Next one?
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